john m
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Am I expecting to much I was hopping for newer than 2000 maybe Bavaria beneteau or simaler but can't find anything around my price and have been searching everywhere any ideas
Modern 40 yacht for 50000
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Tranona
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You will get a 36 or a 37 from early 2000s for around that price, but not a 40 footer that is worth having. The reason you can't find what you want is because people are not prepared to sell for the price you want to pay - called market pricing!
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shannon9
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What happened to the one you bought back in January?
bitbaltic
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Yes you are expecting too much unless the boat or sale is distressed. Your researches seem to have demonstrated this.
john m
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I ran in to a few problems so if I can find something else I can walk away from the deal
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shannon9
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That makes no sense at all. Never mind.
bitbaltic
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+1 my thoughts exactly. He has made no deal, in order to preserve his freedom to walk away from others. Hmmm
john m
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I have paid for the boat although the cash is in the brokers client account until the issue is resolved
bitbaltic
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Crikey that sounds a bit stiff. Normally you put 10% down subject to survey. If the survey throws up problems you negotiate from there but you surely don't pay the full whack then quibble. If that's the case (you paid up after survey but later wouldn't accept the boat) I think you might be in a bit of a pickle.
john m
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Paid up subject to repair jobs being done to surveyor satisfaction but this might now cost the owner more than he expected so he has given me the option to pull out I will explain what the problems are later if the deal finally dies meantime I want a boat I can sail now if I can find one
bitbaltic
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You must be aware that that is a very irregular deal. You put a 10% deposit down, get a survey done, then negotiate the price down or withhold completion until any unexpected faults are rectified, whichever suits both parties best.
Fair enough, but the only point at which the broker should hold the full monies for the boat ought to be the business day before you take it away, and the owner should never have discretion over that.
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Neil_Y
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There was a good 390 (my old one) for sale in Holland less than 50K, it had been neglected a bit but a god boat. However that was from 1991 vintage.
mainsail1
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I know I will get bashed for saying it but from my own experience I would leave Bavarias from 2000 onwards on the shelf and look elsewhere. The build quality is variable.
jordanbasset
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We sold our Bavaria 38, 2003 in Greece a couple of months ago for around that price, had stacks of extras, solar panels, gantry, keel cooled fridge, dinghy and out board, 2 metre lead keel plus too many more extras to list. It did sell very quickly and to be honest our intention was to bring it back to the U.K. to sell but we decided to go with the offer we had. As for build quality we had no issues with it, it served us very well. Would recommend the model to any one
You may be better off looking around Greece, plenty of boats about and then having the fun/adventure of sailing it back.
Tranona
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Still won't get a 40 for much under £60k VAT paid but 36/7/8 possible. However it costs anything up to £10k to bring it back to UK. Fine if you want the trip, but not a lot of use if like the OP you want a ready to use boat in the UK. Agree that there is nothing intrinsically wrong with boats of that era, but 10-12 years of hard use gives plenty of opportunity for damage and poor maintenance - just like any other boat.
charles_reed
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UK is definitely not the place to look for good-value boats - besides more Bavs in the Med than anywhere else - they were designed for it.
Simondjuk
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If you're patient and prepared to travel, eventually you'll find what you're looking for in the UK. We paid £3K more than your intended budget for a 1999 Bav 38.
As with most Bavs, it's bigger than it says on the tin at just a whisker under 40 feet. Being a slightly older model, it has a heavier build and more ballast than the later versions, and also a lot more solid wood, as opposed to laminates, internally.
She's a one owner boat, well cared for and in really nice condition with little more than one minor scatch to the topsides, a tiny gelcoat repair needing tidying up to an anchor ding on the bow and a couple of small dents in the cabin sole boards from items being dropped.
She's had lots of money spent on her within the last four years to replace sails, standing rigging, seacocks, anchor windlass, saildrive diaphragm, and numerous other items. She came with an extensive inventory, excepting that is a chartplotter. Changing the original running rigging is about the only costly thing that needs doing, but that could be done piecemeal.
The only issues found so far have been a leak in the forward shower pump pipework (replaced for about a fiver), a couple of dodgy unfused electrical connections made into the panel (fixed for the cost of a few pence worth of terminals), and a corroded fuel pre-filter head, caused by an unnoticed drip from the engine anti-siphon above, which we were aware of at the time of purchase and are about to replace.
All told, well happy.
As with most Bavs, it's bigger than it says on the tin at just a whisker under 40 feet. Being a slightly older model, it has a heavier build and more ballast than the later versions, and also a lot more solid wood, as opposed to laminates, internally.
She's a one owner boat, well cared for and in really nice condition with little more than one minor scatch to the topsides, a tiny gelcoat repair needing tidying up to an anchor ding on the bow and a couple of small dents in the cabin sole boards from items being dropped.
She's had lots of money spent on her within the last four years to replace sails, standing rigging, seacocks, anchor windlass, saildrive diaphragm, and numerous other items. She came with an extensive inventory, excepting that is a chartplotter. Changing the original running rigging is about the only costly thing that needs doing, but that could be done piecemeal.
The only issues found so far have been a leak in the forward shower pump pipework (replaced for about a fiver), a couple of dodgy unfused electrical connections made into the panel (fixed for the cost of a few pence worth of terminals), and a corroded fuel pre-filter head, caused by an unnoticed drip from the engine anti-siphon above, which we were aware of at the time of purchase and are about to replace.
All told, well happy.
