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Well third venture into Sparkes and didn't hit anything. Saw DJEFab and wo what a mahoosive ship that is, lovely.

Anyway, got ready to leave, took off all necesssary ropes remembered to unplug the shore power!! and started the donks. just as the long line of boats got in a complete mess at the fuel pontoon, a man on a mobo getting cross because he was waiting so long stooging around heating up his bow thruster, a Southerly yacht lost it's steering and drifted back to crash into the pontoon.

Looked around to see a yachty on the downwind pontoon with his hankie over his face, he shouted "you're choking me" I said I'm sorry it won't be long.

He didn't apologise for rattling and creaking sails up and down all morning disturbing the peace but I refrained from saying anything!

So was it enough to apologise? I did try to minimise the time the engines were running before we moved off.

Ian

BTW DJE, I thing it has to be an earth connection, that's the only thing that's common to both.
 
iangrant said:
Looked around to see a yachty on the downwind pontoon with his hankie over his face, he shouted "you're choking me" I said I'm sorry it won't be long.

So was it enough to apologise? I did try to minimise the time the engines were running before we moved off.

Ian
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Unfortunately some sailors have an attitude toward motorboats, thankfully they are in the minority, equity card carrying bunch of girls, and yours brought his own props with him, Thespian types do get to you some times, they are soooo last season deary :D:rolleyes:

blow him a kiss he'll fart and blush then disappear.
 
Why are peeps so keen to become angry and take offence ?

Both sides are prone to this and, for the life of me, I cannot see the point - they are not enjoying themselves and, provided any irritation is temporary, why get so excited about it ?

Obviously I exclude Thames rowers as they seem to be permanently angry at all other river users.

Tom
 
I spent 20 yrs.......

As a raggie and never once moaned at motor boats starting up. their wash, always waved but from the dark side there do seem to be a whole load of them that do let the side down.

I always wave as well but many noses do go in the air, still not going to give up waving though, Ha


Ian
 
There are a few such to##ers about, but only a few luckily. They are also the ones who just day sail, and walk off leaving their halyards loose and "clacking" all night to disturb others who are on board. Normally, their boat handling is ****, and they get very stressed when in close proximity of other boats, hence their reaction.

It was VERY interesting, when in Yarmouth Harbour last week, a very windy couple of nights, and all the boats had crews sleeping aboard. NOT ONE halyard was causing a disturbance - amazing how they care for their own sanity when on board.

Going down the Hamble the other day, 5 knots only, and silly old fart on a yacht coming the other way, pointed at our boat, and gave a big thumbs down!! Hilarious, really!!
 
iangrant said:
Well third venture into Sparkes and didn't hit anything. Saw DJEFab and wo what a mahoosive ship that is, lovely.

Anyway, got ready to leave, took off all necesssary ropes remembered to unplug the shore power!! and started the donks. just as the long line of boats got in a complete mess at the fuel pontoon, a man on a mobo getting cross because he was waiting so long stooging around heating up his bow thruster, a Southerly yacht lost it's steering and drifted back to crash into the pontoon.

Looked around to see a yachty on the downwind pontoon with his hankie over his face, he shouted "you're choking me" I said I'm sorry it won't be long.

He didn't apologise for rattling and creaking sails up and down all morning disturbing the peace but I refrained from saying anything!

So was it enough to apologise? I did try to minimise the time the engines were running before we moved off.

Ian

BTW DJE, I thing it has to be an earth connection, that's the only thing that's common to both.
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As a Raggie you didnt ever get the Raggie stinker thing ( neither did I when I used to sail and still do ).
Now you are a stinker you have no chance of understanding the raggie stinker thing !

Just smile, wave and enjoy yourself :)

Try not to get too wound up, because the next step in passing them at hump speed 5 meters off ;)
 
Don't get to upset about it mate, we all do it at times waiting for the right time to leave the pontoon and then it gets interrupted by someone turning up at wrong moment, and if you have your engines on ready to leave then so be it, he should have gone down the companionway to get out of the smell if it really got on his nerves, being a raggie myself, we are all entitled to have our time on the water, whatever your passion afloat is...nothing really to moan about, but as you have said some people have their head up their a*s to much.

Hope you enjoy your day once you got out of the jam. It was a great sunday up north, had a really brilliant day.
 
epervier said:
Unfortunately some sailors have an attitude toward motorboats, thankfully they are in the minority, equity card carrying bunch of girls, and yours brought his own props with him, Thespian types do get to you some times, they are soooo last season deary :D:rolleyes:

blow him a kiss he'll fart and blush then disappear.
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Great reply lol
 
Your apology was more than good enough Ian. You have to start the engines and it's pretty common to sit on the pontoon for at least a few short minutes to warm them up a little before setting off. Ours barely make any smoke, but i still keep the running on the pontoon down to a brief run to slightly warm them, before heading to the lock at tickover. Handy having the lock in a way, gives us another chance to warm the engine.

As others have said, there is an element of the raggie army that hates all things mobo and will complain and be ignorant whatever you do. You've already noticed a few by the sounds of it. Luckily, most of the raggies seem to be decent guys who appreciate it when we veer around them, even if they are doing weird tacking saily stuff that we don't understand and can't quite work out where in hell they are going lol and give us a wave.

Personally, i don't much like the raggie v mobo aspect of boating. I prefer to think of myself as a person with a boat. Rather than have camps for mobo's and raggies, i have a camp for normal people (like you and me :)) and a camp for knobs. The raggies that look the other way, the guy moaning about some exhaust gasses and the moboater that blasts past other boats at close range all live in the knob camp. Not because they have a particular boat, but because they are knobs, no matter where they are, or what they are doing, knobs.
 
Pah, lightweight! :D

I got the same reaction once from a lady on a large mobo in the days when I had a rag 'n' stick machine.

My 10 step technique for those in need of a masterclass:

Step 1 - leave rag boat unused for a few months in the nice warm weather (this allows the crustaceans and their friends to transform the propellor into something with the hydrodynamic qualities of a football).

Step 2 - cast off from finger pontoon without a care in the world and maybe just a suspicion of a shove in the direction of the fairway.

Step 3 - engage the mighty 9hp lump in "ahead" - only to find nothing much happening.

Step 4 - realise the problem. NB It's very important at this stage to have drifted close to the most expensive looking and (crucially) occupied mobo in the vicinity.

Step 5 - crash the gearbox into full speed astern

Step 6 - watch the plume of smoke engulf first self then peeps on mobo

Step 7 - watch angry diners shake fists and mouth comments - obviously it's not possible to hear them, but it's no real stretch of the imagination

Step 8 - pray that something will grip the water.

Step 9 - reverse back into berth

Step 10 - engine off. Try to pass it off as if nothing unusual had happened.
 
iangrant said:
BTW DJE, I thing it has to be an earth connection, that's the only thing that's common to both.
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Nice to see you at the weekend. Really nice boat and that Garmin gear looked very impressive.
Good thought re the earth connection, will check it out.
Don't worry about the natives;) welcome to the dark side:D
 
I was sat on my river mooring considering what it would be like when I sell my power boat and get a sailing boat with all the obvious pluses and minuses so I thought I ought to get some practice in, so the next power boat that came up the river with a bit of wash I shouted slow down, slow down, too much wash, 4 knot limit, waving 4 fingers. He said ok ok whats your problem. I said, Just practising to be a yachty.
 
robyonfrome said:
I was sat on my river mooring considering what it would be like when I sell my power boat and get a sailing boat with all the obvious pluses and minuses so I thought I ought to get some practice in, so the next power boat that came up the river with a bit of wash I shouted slow down, slow down, too much wash, 4 knot limit, waving 4 fingers. He said ok ok whats your problem. I said, Just practising to be a yachty.
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I think you confused him with so many fingers. We're only used to one or two from yotties :D
 
Stooging around

If I had known it was another forum member watching me I would asked you to chuck over a beer can. I guess it was you in the middle outside of pontoon A (I think), the first one you come to. I was still suffering from the effects of being a closet Raggie and competing in the RTIR the day before. Still we did come 250th out of 1780ish and I got to play with the Kite to the Needles and helm the final section from Whitesands Bay to the finish.

It wasn't the hanging around but the length of time it took for any response to the radio, although there isn't much room to dolly around at low tide. We had pre booked a lunchtime berth on the visitors horseshoe, which was free, but the Southerly was tied up on the fuel pontoon nose in tight and bum sticking out so there was no way we could squeeze in.

When the marina staff got it to move I must admit I was surprised to see it overhanging the shortest length of fuel pontoon again a couple of minutes later.
 
So it goes. I don't think fumes from someone setting off are anything that can be avoided. ButIi do get annoyed when the next boat upwind starts their engine(s) - Raggie or MoBo, just to top up the batteries. It means I am poisoned with carcinogenic particulates for up to an hour or more with little chance to escape unless I can leave meyself.

Please, if your batteries need charging, cast off & go for a little run. It is far more enjoyable for you, and eliminates all danger to your neighbours. If I need a bit of a charge, then 20 mins up & down the river at dead slow & stop gives me an idea what is happening on the moorings, a chance to wave & say hello to a few I may not have seen for a while, excellent slow speed manouvering practice AND charges the batteries with no annoyance to anyone.

You know it makes sense.
 
So it was you're fault!! :)

Scaramoosh said:
If I had known it was another forum member watching me I would asked you to chuck over a beer can. I guess it was you in the middle outside of pontoon A (I think), the first one you come to. I was still suffering from the effects of being a closet Raggie and competing in the RTIR the day before. Still we did come 250th out of 1780ish and I got to play with the Kite to the Needles and helm the final section from Whitesands Bay to the finish.

It wasn't the hanging around but the length of time it took for any response to the radio, although there isn't much room to dolly around at low tide. We had pre booked a lunchtime berth on the visitors horseshoe, which was free, but the Southerly was tied up on the fuel pontoon nose in tight and bum sticking out so there was no way we could squeeze in.

When the marina staff got it to move I must admit I was surprised to see it overhanging the shortest length of fuel pontoon again a couple of minutes later.
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Not enough Sparkes folk to re-fuel and answer the radio I guess??

What carnage, I thought you were already booked in, if I'd have known I would have passed you a cold one as we could have swapped places and the raggie could have moaned at your fumes relpacing mine!!

Yes we were on the Nelson in the middle of A pontoon, the southerly developed steering problems (er, me thinks autopilot engaged) but I was surprised all of the ribs drifting around didn't take any notice and give him a nudge.

Busy there at the weekend though, Selsey lifeboat, inshore Hayling LB Chi harbour master all draggin' 'em in one at a time as they broke down!

Ian
 
raggies have strange attitudes towards the internal combustion engine but engines on yachts of course are completely different. we have had bad vibes for running our (almost silent) genny for an hour in an anchorage to recharge batteries, when all around us yachts were running their auxiliary engines for the same purpose, making 10 times the noise!
 
Searush said:
So it goes. I don't think fumes from someone setting off are anything that can be avoided. ButIi do get annoyed when the next boat upwind starts their engine(s) - Raggie or MoBo, just to top up the batteries. It means I am poisoned with carcinogenic particulates for up to an hour or more with little chance to escape unless I can leave meyself.

Please, if your batteries need charging, cast off & go for a little run. It is far more enjoyable for you, and eliminates all danger to your neighbours. If I need a bit of a charge, then 20 mins up & down the river at dead slow & stop gives me an idea what is happening on the moorings, a chance to wave & say hello to a few I may not have seen for a while, excellent slow speed manouvering practice AND charges the batteries with no annoyance to anyone.

You know it makes sense.
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Furthermore, engines thrive on "load" it is not good to run them without it they glaze up and smoke a lot.
 
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