Mike Perham abandons record bid...
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Twister_Ken
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The story goes on to say "he hopes to set off again in the next few days"
So it sounds like the plans to carry on with a circumnavigation, whilst accepting that he won't be the youngest.
So it sounds like the plans to carry on with a circumnavigation, whilst accepting that he won't be the youngest.
MoodySabre
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Poor journalism. In one article has abandoned hope of being the youngest, still wanted to be the youngest and is setting off again in a few days. He is 16 and the record so far is by an 18 year old. So is it going to take him more than a year to get round? Or is he coming back and going to start again? Worse than poor journalism.
Let's see what Mike says on his blog.
Let's see what Mike says on his blog.
pvb
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Maybe it's just the "non stop" bit he's abandoning?
snooks
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His blog still says he's testing...on the 15th
Dick Durham spoke to his father about an hour ago, but there was no mention of him giving up, and was adament that Mike is continuing. With the beeb reporting the other day that Ellen won the Vendee in 2001, I think maybe sailing isn't their strong point /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Dick Durham spoke to his father about an hour ago, but there was no mention of him giving up, and was adament that Mike is continuing. With the beeb reporting the other day that Ellen won the Vendee in 2001, I think maybe sailing isn't their strong point /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
temptress
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Perhaps he needs to get a bit more experience maintaining things.
It’s one thing knowing how to sail and use things. It takes experience/training/time to learn how to look after things and it is the maintenance that kills you.
Sailing downwind in the relative ease of a trade wind passage is different from sailing in variable conditions on a temperamental racing machine. Look at the Vendee and Volvo sailors they all spend lots of time fixing things, they break get fixed and still they break.
Maybe he needs a less complicated boat? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
It’s one thing knowing how to sail and use things. It takes experience/training/time to learn how to look after things and it is the maintenance that kills you.
Sailing downwind in the relative ease of a trade wind passage is different from sailing in variable conditions on a temperamental racing machine. Look at the Vendee and Volvo sailors they all spend lots of time fixing things, they break get fixed and still they break.
Maybe he needs a less complicated boat? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
snooks
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OK, Dick spoke to Mike, to get the news from the horses mouth so to speak.
He's still planning a non stop bid, but there is also the opportunity to get the stopping record
For Dick's news story clickity ckick here
He's still planning a non stop bid, but there is also the opportunity to get the stopping record
For Dick's news story clickity ckick here
BlueSkyNick
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snooks
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No it's a tpyo [sic] /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
anni
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I think it would be courteous to at least update the website. After all many people have spent a lot of time sending good wishes and watching his progress and to not keep everyone up to date seems a little rude. Nothing since Monday when it was announced there would be a test sail on Tuesday.
MoodySabre
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Website now updated. Going for the record as the youngest person to circumnavigate.
rushers
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I rather feel that the whole project has been ill prepared. Reading the blog makes me feel that,spendid chap that he obviously is, this is a project that was never really thought through.
CPD
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My instinct tells me this is all wrong. To stake a claim at being the youngest to achieve what is a potentially very dangerous feat, will only attract others, who by definition, will be younger. Whether it be sooner or later, it will only end in very large tears. I just can't get excited by it, but hope that whatever he does, he ends up back in one piece.
Cantata
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I fully agree.
I would be much happier if he was aiming to do the trip in a 'conventional' boat, that would look after him, instead of in a twitchy and complicated racing machine. I just cannot see this venture having a satisfactory ending. Obviously he is far from being an average 16-year-old but nonetheless.........
I would be much happier if he was aiming to do the trip in a 'conventional' boat, that would look after him, instead of in a twitchy and complicated racing machine. I just cannot see this venture having a satisfactory ending. Obviously he is far from being an average 16-year-old but nonetheless.........
Babylon
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I rather feel that the whole project has been ill prepared. Reading the blog makes me feel that,spendid chap that he obviously is, this is a project that was never really thought through.
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I agree with this view.
I've tried to keep my feelings under my hat since he first crossed the Atlantic with his dad shadowing him, and I cannot criticise his courage etc, however I think a lot of this has driven by his dad and fueled by a false sense of celebrity-worth.
If, say, he'd fund-raised, fitted out and then single-handed a small yacht (alone) around Britain, he'd have achieved much more in my eyes. He would have learnt a lot about himself, how to problem-solve on his own, and how to chose and maintain his gear. He'd then be in a much more robust psychological state to tackle the bigger challenges.
I'm not comparing Mike's circumstances to Dame Ellen's, but the difference is that as a driven young person she had the quiet support of her family - rather than being expected to vicariously live out other people's ambitions.
Still, he has my best wishes.
I rather feel that the whole project has been ill prepared. Reading the blog makes me feel that,spendid chap that he obviously is, this is a project that was never really thought through.
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I agree with this view.
I've tried to keep my feelings under my hat since he first crossed the Atlantic with his dad shadowing him, and I cannot criticise his courage etc, however I think a lot of this has driven by his dad and fueled by a false sense of celebrity-worth.
If, say, he'd fund-raised, fitted out and then single-handed a small yacht (alone) around Britain, he'd have achieved much more in my eyes. He would have learnt a lot about himself, how to problem-solve on his own, and how to chose and maintain his gear. He'd then be in a much more robust psychological state to tackle the bigger challenges.
I'm not comparing Mike's circumstances to Dame Ellen's, but the difference is that as a driven young person she had the quiet support of her family - rather than being expected to vicariously live out other people's ambitions.
Still, he has my best wishes.
Cantata
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[.....................If, say, he'd fund-raised, fitted out and then single-handed a small yacht (alone) around Britain, he'd have achieved much more in my eyes. He would have learnt a lot about himself, how to problem-solve on his own, and how to chose and maintain his gear. He'd then be in a much more robust psychological state to tackle the bigger challenges...................
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All of that is exactly what young Jack Daly did this year, culminating in achieving Ramsgate to Ramsgate anti-clockwise.
[.....................If, say, he'd fund-raised, fitted out and then single-handed a small yacht (alone) around Britain, he'd have achieved much more in my eyes. He would have learnt a lot about himself, how to problem-solve on his own, and how to chose and maintain his gear. He'd then be in a much more robust psychological state to tackle the bigger challenges...................
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All of that is exactly what young Jack Daly did this year, culminating in achieving Ramsgate to Ramsgate anti-clockwise.
Mark-1
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Good luck to the lad.
As far as I know there's no evidence that Mike's under any parental pressure at all. Given that, I wonder if it's just a little uncharitable to demean such a great adventure by suggesting such a thing. There's one person who should get overwhelming majority of credit for Mike Perham team's success and that's Mike Perham.
I'm not convinced that failure to repair his own self steering gear at sea is evidence that he isn't up to the task. Robin Knox Johnston had to return Saga to port twice to have expert assistance with failing self steering gear. Indeed in his first RTW trip RJK's self steering gear broke and he wasn't able to repair it at all - fortunately Suhaili was balanced well enough that he could manage without. He didn't know this before he left. Also in Saga RKJ needed constant assistance at sea with simple tech stuff which I doubt Perham, as a younger guy will struggle with.
I wish Mike Perham the very best, it's a great adventure and I'd be happy to wager a few quid that he'll make it back safe having proved his critics wrong yet again.
As far as I know there's no evidence that Mike's under any parental pressure at all. Given that, I wonder if it's just a little uncharitable to demean such a great adventure by suggesting such a thing. There's one person who should get overwhelming majority of credit for Mike Perham team's success and that's Mike Perham.
I'm not convinced that failure to repair his own self steering gear at sea is evidence that he isn't up to the task. Robin Knox Johnston had to return Saga to port twice to have expert assistance with failing self steering gear. Indeed in his first RTW trip RJK's self steering gear broke and he wasn't able to repair it at all - fortunately Suhaili was balanced well enough that he could manage without. He didn't know this before he left. Also in Saga RKJ needed constant assistance at sea with simple tech stuff which I doubt Perham, as a younger guy will struggle with.
I wish Mike Perham the very best, it's a great adventure and I'd be happy to wager a few quid that he'll make it back safe having proved his critics wrong yet again.
snooks
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I think he's going to go around west now!!! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
From his blog.....
" I just want to get going, to see that sunset on that horizon in front of me"
Doesn't he want to ses it setting behind him???? /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
From his blog.....
" I just want to get going, to see that sunset on that horizon in front of me"
Doesn't he want to ses it setting behind him???? /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
pvb
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From his blog..... " I just want to get going, to see that sunset on that horizon in front of me"
Doesn't he want to ses it setting behind him???? /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
[/ QUOTE ]Perhaps he's anticipating further autopilot problems! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Seriously, though, this whole escapade is looking worryingly amateurish. Just how long does it take to fix an NKE autopilot? If you look at the blog, he's had "specialists" working on it for 4 weeks now. They could have ripped the whole lot out and replaced it in much less time. Do NKE have a bad reputation for reliability?? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
From his blog..... " I just want to get going, to see that sunset on that horizon in front of me"
Doesn't he want to ses it setting behind him???? /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
[/ QUOTE ]Perhaps he's anticipating further autopilot problems! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Seriously, though, this whole escapade is looking worryingly amateurish. Just how long does it take to fix an NKE autopilot? If you look at the blog, he's had "specialists" working on it for 4 weeks now. They could have ripped the whole lot out and replaced it in much less time. Do NKE have a bad reputation for reliability?? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Mark-1
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'The reason that it is so hard to fix is that although there is a problem there isn't one all the time. The pilot will behave perfectly most of the time on dock and then once you set sail only then does it have a headache. This is the reason that it's taking so long to fix.
So it only happens under load? Maybe because it's drawing more current? Possible battery, battery connections or even inadequate cable from the battery?
So it only happens under load? Maybe because it's drawing more current? Possible battery, battery connections or even inadequate cable from the battery?