MBM GreenlineHybrid Article

[apollo]

Great article guys and a very interesting boat for me.

The one piece of info missing for me was the AIR DRAFT of the boat?

If I were to use it on Inland Waters - which it is begging to be with Eleccie motor Hybrid, I need to know that it will fit!

 

[Chris_d]

Yes looked very interesting especialy for mixed Thames and Sea use, starting price looked incredible value at only £93K for a well fitted out 33footer.

 

[CX54WEK]

Great article guys and a very interesting boat for me.

The one piece of info missing for me was the AIR DRAFT of the boat?

If I were to use it on Inland Waters - which it is begging to be with Eleccie motor Hybrid, I need to know that it will fit!

9ft.

Read it in another mag and ordered a brochure from Greenline. Got that and the price list. Lets just say it isnt as cheap as it sounds once you have added essentials like hot water and mooring cleats!!!!!

 

[CX54WEK]

Yes looked very interesting especialy for mixed Thames and Sea use, starting price looked incredible value at only £93K for a well fitted out 33footer.

The 93k is a basic boat, no hot water, no fridge, no mooring cleats.

 

[Andrew_Fanner]

Very interesting example, but I'd want to see how the solar elements fared in a typical UK scenario of passable sunshine now and again. It just came across as a Med/Carib option rather than in our environment. After that you have a good hull.

I'd like this sort of thing to work, I really would, but I remain cautious.

 

[Whitelighter]

I too am interested in this boat and have been for some time.

I think it is excellent value, and yes you have to spec hot water but it does come with cleats!!!!

Standard engine with the Comfort Package (hot water, fridge, deck shower and extra battery) and Anchor Package (Anchor Winch, Anchor & Chain, Spring Cleats and Sidepower Thruster) still comes in at just under £96k inc VAT.

The real additional cost is the bigger engine (which for coastal use is essential) at £10,500 inc VAT and the hybrid system. For me this is both the real attraction and the major sticking point.

The hybrid system costs £23,000 inc VAT and the Solar Panels on the roof which give the potential for 'Solar Sailing' as well as 240v at anchor and away from marinas is another £8,250 - making the whole full Hybrid option a steep £31,000!!!

You can have a very decent, nicely made and seemingly very fuel efficient with a good turn of speed (13-15knts depending on which review you read) for under £110k on the water. Look at what the dutch will charge you for a Linssen or similar and its stonking value.

Even if you add the full hybrid system, teak decks and leccy bogs and you are still only looking at £150k ish which really is very competitive for the technology in the boat.

There are two things weighing on my mind however. The first is I think they ahve missed a trick by omitting the second guest cabin. Most 33ft boats have one, and while there is the extra sapce taken up by the battery banks I would have thought the small single engine would have compensated for this. The second it the actual consumption figures. If you read the MBM and MB&Y articles the figures vary quite a lot (by like 30%). The MBM figures are very close to the manufacturers claims and I wonder if they actually tested them at all. The MB&Y figures are much worse and were definitly tested but on a prototype/hull 1 boat which may not be fully finessed. 7knts seems to give 7-9mpg in neutral seas, and 13-15knts no better than a planing sports boat. Its the 10 knot range which appeals to me. If it is 4mpg ish then I think its a good compromise.

Anyway, demo is booked with Salterns when their boat turns up and I will be taking great interest in the figures derived from that. If there is interest I will take pics and post my own little review after that if anyone wants to read it.

Prices in this have been taken from the German price list provided by Allert Marine at Dusseldorf this year. I have based the exchange rate on 1.16 and deducted german IVA at 19% and added UK VAT at 17.5%.

 

[Bassplayer]

A very significant boat. The first proper use of hybrid technology - far better than those awfull Prius things. The other thing that is interesting is the hull form; the videos I have seen show hardly any wash at slow speed, it must be a very slippery profile. Watch while other manufacturers try and catch up. Please post on here when you have had your test runs!!

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Great article guys and a very interesting boat for me.

The one piece of info missing for me was the AIR DRAFT of the boat?

If I were to use it on Inland Waters - which it is begging to be with Eleccie motor Hybrid, I need to know that it will fit!

Maybe as an inland waterways cruiser, there is a market but as a coastal cruiser, I don't get it. At anything above displacement speed, the boat is going to be using the diesel engine 100% of the time and not very efficiently at that. I can't remember the exact figures from the MBM test but 2mpg at about 13kts is nothing to brag about for a 33 footer. So the only potential fuel saving is to be made when pootling between the marina and the sea when the electric motor can be used but, at slow speeds, a diesel engine only sips fuel so any savings will be marginal. Similarly, the use of solar power to recharge the batteries in place of a generator will only lead to small fuel savings as well. I guess there won't be a flybridge version!
IMHO, hybrid power in boats is a bit of a technological dead end just like as in cars. The reality is that something like the Toyota Pious is no more economical than a diesel hatchback and I think it will be the same with boats. Surely, the extra weight of the hybrid components in a boat will go some way to offsetting any fuel saving as well. I can't help feeling that hybrid power is more of a marketing concept designed to attract those punters who feel guilty about their motoring and boating pleasures than a major technological breakthrough that will save the planet

 

[Chris_d]

Maybe as an inland waterways cruiser, there is a market but as a coastal cruiser, I don't get it. At anything above displacement speed, the boat is going to be using the diesel engine 100% of the time and not very efficiently at that. I can't remember the exact figures from the MBM test but 2mpg at about 13kts is nothing to brag about for a 33 footer. So the only potential fuel saving is to be made when pootling between the marina and the sea when the electric motor can be used but, at slow speeds, a diesel engine only sips fuel so any savings will be marginal. Similarly, the use of solar power to recharge the batteries in place of a generator will only lead to small fuel savings as well. I guess there won't be a flybridge version!
IMHO, hybrid power in boats is a bit of a technological dead end just like as in cars. The reality is that something like the Toyota Pious is no more economical than a diesel hatchback and I think it will be the same with boats. Surely, the extra weight of the hybrid components in a boat will go some way to offsetting any fuel saving as well. I can't help feeling that hybrid power is more of a marketing concept designed to attract those punters who feel guilty about their motoring and boating pleasures than a major technological breakthrough that will save the planet

I'd agree in general about the Hybrid option, but it is actualy a very good boat full stop with a good layout and fitout for the price, similar Brit and dutch stuff are maybe £50K more. So you can have the Hybrid stuff for free, which would be ideal for inland use or staying away from shore power type locations.

Although I have to admit I would probably never buy the Hybrid opiton as resale is going to be iffy, especialy if the batteries need replacing.

 

[CX54WEK]

I too am interested in this boat and have been for some time.

I think it is excellent value, and yes you have to spec hot water but it does come with cleats!!!!

Standard engine with the Comfort Package (hot water, fridge, deck shower and extra battery) and Anchor Package (Anchor Winch, Anchor & Chain, Spring Cleats and Sidepower Thruster) still comes in at just under £96k inc VAT.

The real additional cost is the bigger engine (which for coastal use is essential) at £10,500 inc VAT and the hybrid system. For me this is both the real attraction and the major sticking point.

The hybrid system costs £23,000 inc VAT and the Solar Panels on the roof which give the potential for 'Solar Sailing' as well as 240v at anchor and away from marinas is another £8,250 - making the whole full Hybrid option a steep £31,000!!!

You can have a very decent, nicely made and seemingly very fuel efficient with a good turn of speed (13-15knts depending on which review you read) for under £110k on the water. Look at what the dutch will charge you for a Linssen or similar and its stonking value.

Even if you add the full hybrid system, teak decks and leccy bogs and you are still only looking at £150k ish which really is very competitive for the technology in the boat.

There are two things weighing on my mind however. The first is I think they ahve missed a trick by omitting the second guest cabin. Most 33ft boats have one, and while there is the extra sapce taken up by the battery banks I would have thought the small single engine would have compensated for this. The second it the actual consumption figures. If you read the MBM and MB&Y articles the figures vary quite a lot (by like 30%). The MBM figures are very close to the manufacturers claims and I wonder if they actually tested them at all. The MB&Y figures are much worse and were definitly tested but on a prototype/hull 1 boat which may not be fully finessed. 7knts seems to give 7-9mpg in neutral seas, and 13-15knts no better than a planing sports boat. Its the 10 knot range which appeals to me. If it is 4mpg ish then I think its a good compromise.

Anyway, demo is booked with Salterns when their boat turns up and I will be taking great interest in the figures derived from that. If there is interest I will take pics and post my own little review after that if anyone wants to read it.

Prices in this have been taken from the German price list provided by Allert Marine at Dusseldorf this year. I have based the exchange rate on 1.16 and deducted german IVA at 19% and added UK VAT at 17.5%.

You must be looking at a different boat.

The spec we were sent on monday had bugger all on the standard 80k diesel only boat. We where genuinley interested until we specced it up to our desired spec and came out at 120k + VAT and then we would have to add further equipment to meet our requirements as they couldnt add some of the items we want.

 

[Whitelighter]

I think one of us must be confused somewhere then. If you let me have your email address I can send you the price list I have from Allert. I cant post it here as the file is too big.

What options did you consider mandatory? I only ask because I thought completly the opposit to you in that I thought the basic spec was no worse than the dutch semi-d stuff for example, and the option packs were well priced. Well, except for the elctronics packages but thats the sam foir just about every builder and I would never spec factory nav as you get better kit for less money doing it yourself.

 

[CX54WEK]

I think one of us must be confused somewhere then. If you let me have your email address I can send you the price list I have from Allert. I cant post it here as the file is too big.

What options did you consider mandatory? I only ask because I thought completly the opposit to you in that I thought the basic spec was no worse than the dutch semi-d stuff for example, and the option packs were well priced. Well, except for the elctronics packages but thats the sam foir just about every builder and I would never spec factory nav as you get better kit for less money doing it yourself.

Comfort package (hot water is an essential not a comfort extra!!!), mooring package (again anchor spring cleats and winch are essential not optional), heating, teak, cockpit covers, gas in the kitchen, navigation gear, CD player, larger fridge and an opening centre part of the windscreen.

Nothing fancy or out of the ordinary and not even with the bigger engine. The price listw e have came from Salterns brokerage.

 

[Whitelighter]

German spec & price list

Copy from the Allert PDF and then translated, so I appologise in advance for the few things that havent come across well. Prices in Euros with 19% German IVA included

GREEN LINE 33 Hybrid

Fittings / STANDARD SPECIFICATION

Length overall 9,99 m Fresh water capacity 300 l
Beam 3,49 m Fuel tank 400 l
Draught, loaded, about 0.70 m standard engine 55 kW (75 hp)
Curb weight 4,500 kg Design J & J Design
Cabins 1 yard Seaway
Berths 2 (+2) CE Category B

EXTERIOR

HULL
• Hull and deck laminated with polyester resin manufactured using the injection
• Standard gelcoat in the RAL color 9001
• PVC foam as core material between the laminate layers on the trunk
• stainless steel reinforcements in the deck incorporated

Deck equipment
• cleats at bow and stern (250 mm) stainless steel
• pulpit, guard rail and ladder made of stainless steel
• Gerätemast forward on hardtop
• Süllkante fuselage and cockpit made of solid wood in Teakdesign
• 2 large cockpit lockers provide ample storage space for linen and accessories
• tank filling for diesel and water on the starboard or port side
• PVC skirting
• Side door to starboard in the cockpit that open to the outside
• Navigation lights
• Large swim platform, lowered manually

INTERIOR

SALON / GALLEY
• Side windows in the front parlor to open a sliding window
• spacious galley aft to starboard with a large rear window to open
• Work with Formica or similar material coated
• stainless steel sink
• double burner gas stove
• Storage space under the sink, cutlery tray
• cabinets above the galley and compartments for storing
• large wooden cabinet on the port side
• comfortable sofa to starboard
• front seat of the corner sofas foldable bench as control
• Storage under seats and behind backrests
• coffee table with integrated storage compartment
• comfortable sofa to port with storage under the seat
• curtains for the side windows in the salon
• reading lamp, interior lighting

STEERING / SALON
• Steering with double folding bench seat to starboard
• Instrument panel, engine control and instrumentation
• 2 sliding windows port and starboard
• Steering

OWNER'S CABIN / foreship
• decline staircase with easy steps from the saloon to the master cabin in the bow
• Two Hängefächer on decline in port
• Doors to the owner's cabin and the shower
• single beds (80 × 200 cm) with the mattress in the forward cabin, double bed convertible
• generous storage space under the bed
• door from the front cabin to shower
• various cabinets and storage compartments in the forward cabin

Bathroom & TOILET
• shower from the forward cabin from the saloon and walked
• Shower with water drainage and water pump shower
• sink
• Waschpult Corian or a similar material
• mirror over the sink and Badezimmerschränkchen
• compartment under the sink with seacocks
• Sliding windows with curtains on the cabin side
• Pump toilet with holding tank (65 l) and deck
• Lighting in bathroom

TECHNICAL EQUIPMENT

MACHINE OPERATION & CONTROL
• Volkswagen SDI 75-5 marine diesel, 55 kW (75 hp) with shaft
• Mechanical control console at the helm
• Volkswagen instrument panel
• Alternator 12 V, 80 A
• Reverse Gear
• 5-blade propeller
• hydraulic steering with steering
• Engine compartment ventilation fan to
• Insulation in engine
• Fuel filter, prefilter with water separation unit, cooling water filters
• Fuel tank, plastic tank with level indicator and tank ventilation

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
• 230 V shore supply with fuses and RCD
• 12 V-panel system for ship
• 12 V-GM consumer batteries with master switch
• 12 V starter battery with master switch
• 12 V and 230 V outlets

NAVIGATION AND INDICATORS
• for depth and speed
• magnetic compass
• Volkswagen instrument panel

SECURITY & FIRE PROTECTION
• automatic fire extinguishing system in engine compartment
• CE Class B
• Shut-off valve for diesel fuel supply
• 2 fire extinguishers
• electric and manual bilge pump
• Emergency steering at the stern

OTHER
• Instruction Manual
• Manuals

Specification referred Prices II-2010 × prices in EURO
19% VAT

Base Price VERSION I (diesel)
GREEN LINE 33 READY hybrid with VW TDI 75-55 kW (75 PS) 99 850

Hybrid READY Comfort Package
• 87 liter refrigerator, 12V
• Automatic battery charger 30 Ah
• Hot water boilers, hot water system
• stern shower hot / cold 4320
Gas oven 20 L 800

Base Price VERSION II (Diesel / Hybrid / electric)
GREEN LINE 33 hybrid with VW TDI 75-55 kW (75 hp)
• Iskra Avtoelektrika 7 kW electric motor, 5 kW generator, connected to the diesel engine with
hydraulic clutch deducible, electro-mechanical motor control, protected hybrid
Piping, Iskra electronic management module, water
• Automatic battery charger / inverter 3000 W
• Lithium-polymer batteries, 240 Ah, 48 V 126 800

Solar Package
• Photovoltaic panels integrated deckhouse, 1,300 W, 56 V
• Solar battery control system
• solar charge controller 48 V
• Solar batteries Ladeleitungssystem 9565

Hybrid Comfort Package
• 270 liter refrigerator with freezer units, 230 V, port side salon
• el. Oven / Microwave 230 V in Pantry
• ceramic hob 230 V, 2 flame
• Hot water boilers, hot water system
• stern shower hot / cold 5085

Of fittings FOR GREEN LINE HYBRID 33 - VERSION in I & II × Price EURO
19% VAT

1st Motorization
• Extra charge for larger engines VW TDI 121 kW (165 hp)
• Flexible coupling CENTAFLEX with thrust bearing and soft motor suspension
• Noise insulation / fire protection 12 305

2nd Anchoring, maneuvering package
• 500 W electric windlass w / remote control, 40 m (8mm) galvanized anchor chain and 14 kg
Hall-anchor with stainless Bugschutz, chain stopper, safety lock
• Stainless steel spring cleats, 250 mm
• Bow thruster thruster SE40, with battery
• extra battery, 120 Ah 6840

Of fittings FOR GREEN LINE HYBRID 33 - VERSION in I & II × Price EURO
19% VAT

3rd Navigation Package "A"
• Raymarine C120 chartplotter GPS-antenna
• Raymarine Smart Pilot X-10 Hydraulic Auto Pilot System
• Raymarine ST6002 Control Unit 8700

Navigation Package "B"
• Raymarine A70 plotter, GPS-antenna
• Raymarine Smart Pilot X-10 Hydraulic Auto Pilot System
• Raymarine ST6002 Control Unit 5595

4th Baltic package
• Electric stern anchor winch with 10 kg anchor and anchor rope at the stern
• bowsprit with ladder 4950

5th Entertainment Package "E 1"
• LCD TV 22 "including DVD in salon, wired and installed
• LCD TV 22 "DVD included in owner's cabin, wired and installed
• Glomex antenna digital / analog 4235

Entertainment Package "E 2"
• LCD TV 22 "DVD included in the drawing room, wired and installed
• Glomex antenna analog 2405

6th Covers Package
• Cockpit Cover
• Cover covered side deck
• Frontscheibenpersenning 3945

7th Mooring package
• 4 pieces of rope (20 m / 12 mm)
• 6 piece fenders with lines 570

OPTIONS FOR GREEN LINE HYBRID 33 - VERSION I & II

Electric Sunroof 10 110
Electric sliding roof combined with solar roof (two solar panels), Version II 14 600
Solid Teakdesign in cockpit, on the walkway and on the foredeck 8765
Reversible air conditioning (230) DOMETIC with 2 outlets 7735
Oil heating with 1 outlet in saloon and master cabin 4045
Front window heating 2145
Raymarine 49E VHF radio with antenna 640
Raymarine digital radar antenna 2620
Electric toilet, 12 V 1099
Medium windshield to open 1545
Fresh water connection from the bridge 560
Anchor and deck wash 12 V, 999
CD/MP3/USB player, two speakers in saloon 505
Two additional speakers in the cockpit 355
Vorschiffpolster and cockpit upholstery 1285
Antifoulingsystem - fuselage / hull, poly-primer paint, antifouling paint 2015

 

[Whitelighter]

Comfort package (hot water is an essential not a comfort extra!!!), mooring package (again anchor spring cleats and winch are essential not optional), heating, teak, cockpit covers, gas in the kitchen, navigation gear, CD player, larger fridge and an opening centre part of the windscreen.

Nothing fancy or out of the ordinary and not even with the bigger engine. The price listw e have came from Salterns brokerage.

Yes, I quite agree that they would be essential for me as well. Would you prefer they included them and upped the price by £4k?

I think full teak is optional on most (if not all?) boats, and I have already mentioned the nav gear. Still, I think with all of the above for £140k inc VAT is a good deal. Go look at the price of a similar Linssen, or Pedro or even a Westwood and it compares very favourably.

Mind you, we all have different ideas of value I suppose. For example, I wouldnt have the covers (cant see the need), I wouldnt have the hot air heating (cant stand it, would go for a self fit wet system) and cant see the point of the opening centre screen. So I for one am glad they are option because I wouldnt want to pay for them.

 

[CX54WEK]

Yes, I quite agree that they would be essential for me as well. Would you prefer they included them and upped the price by £4k?

I think full teak is optional on most (if not all?) boats, and I have already mentioned the nav gear. Still, I think with all of the above for £140k inc VAT is a good deal. Go look at the price of a similar Linssen, or Pedro or even a Westwood and it compares very favourably.

Mind you, we all have different ideas of value I suppose....

Interesting how the standard spec has changed for the UK market then. This is the extras list sent to us by Salterns

Greenline 33 Hybrid Ready
To standard specification 1/2010 with a 55 kW (75 HP) 5 cylinder VW engine

Greeline 33 Hybrid
To standard specification 1/2010 with a 55 kW (75 HP) 5 cylinder VW engine
• 7 kW electric motor with integrated 5 kW generator, coupled to the diesel engine by a hydraulically operated clutch
• Electro-mechanic coupling of engine controls
• Protected Hybrid management system, Electronic Management Module
• Automatic charger/ inverter 3000 W
• Lithium-Polymer batteries 240 Ah @ 48V

Options
1. Engine upgrade to VW TDI 165-5 HP
• Centaflex flexible coupling with the thrust bearing and sound cocoon

2. Hybrid Ready comfort package (with Hybrid Ready Version only)
• Refrigerator 87 litres 12 V to Port in salon
• 220/ 12 V battery charger, 30 A
• Water heater, with boiler and hot water system
• Stern shower unit, cold and warm water

3. Hybrid Comfort Package (with Hybrid Version only)
• Refrigerator 270 litres with freezer unit, 220 V to Port in salon
• Water heater, with boiler and hot water system
• Stern shower unit, cold and warm water

3. A) Electric
• Electric oven/ microwave 220 V in the galley
• Electric glass ceramic stove with two burners 220 V

3. B) Gas
• Gas oven 20L in the galley (with std. gas cooker)

4. Solar Pack (with Hybrid version only)
• Photovoltaic panels integrated in the top of the coach roof, 1300 W, 56 V
• Solar charge regulator 48 V
• Solar battery charge management system

5. Mooring convenience package
• 500 W anchor windlass with remote controls, 40m 8mm, hot-dip galvanized anchor chain and a 14kg Hall type anchor with stainless steel bow protection, chain stopper and chain retention eye
• Spring cleats 250 mm, stainless steel
• Side power SE40 electric bowthruster, including the battery
• Additional battery 120 Ah

6. Navigation packages
A Navigation pack
• Raymarine C120 W chart plotter including the GPS antenna
• Raymarine Smart Pilot X-10 hydraulic autopilot system
• Raymarine ST 6002 control unit


B Navigation pack
• Raymarine A 70 chart plotter including the GPS antenna
• Raymarine Smart Pilot X-10 hydraulic autopilot system
• Raymarine ST 6002 control unit

7. Entertainment packs (with Hybrid version only)
Entertainment Pack 1
• LCD TV 22” incl. DVD in the salon – mounted and prewired
• LCD TV 22” incl. DVD in the owner cabin - mounted and prewired
• Glomex polaris TV antenna for digital/ analog signals

Entertainment Pack 2
• LCD TV 22” incl. DVD in the salon – mounted and prewired
• Glomex TV antenna for analog signals

8. Other Options
1) Massive wood decking in cockpit and on the deck forward (ECO –TEAK with FSC)
2) Dometic reverse cycle air conditioning system, two outlets
3) Diesel heating system, two outlets (salon and owner)
4) Windshield electric defroster
5) Raymarine digital radar scanner
6) Electric marine toilet, 12V
7) Opening central part of front salon window
8) City water connection
9) Chain and anchor wash-down, 12V, saltwater
10) CD/MP3/USB player, 2 speakers in the saloon
11) 2x speakers in cockpit – waterproof
12) Canvass exterior covers including:
13) Sun cushions forward + cushions on cockpit seats
14) Docking pack
15) A) Sliding roof, electrically operated (not with Solar pack)
16) B) Sliding roof, electrically operated with two solar cells (with Hybrid Version only)
17) Lake of Constance Environmental Pack
18) Antifouling (3x light primer + 3x antifouling)
19) Transportation to Portorox, commissioning, launch, antifouling
20) GAS oven 20L (with Hybrid ready Version only)
21) Baltic pack (stern windlass, 10 kg anchor, lead rope, bowspring with ladder)
22) Communication pack (Raymarine 49E + Glomex VHF antenna, viring, mounted)

Shrink Wrap – transport protection cover

 

[Whitelighter]

Comfort package (hot water is an essential not a comfort extra!!!), mooring package (again anchor spring cleats and winch are essential not optional), heating, teak, cockpit covers, gas in the kitchen, navigation gear, CD player, larger fridge and an opening centre part of the windscreen.

Nothing fancy or out of the ordinary and not even with the bigger engine. The price listw e have came from Salterns brokerage.

Just worked it out, your spec £118,585 inc VAT from Allert.

Unless you wanted the Hybrid option as well?

 

[Nick_H]

• LCD TV 22 "DVD included in the drawing room

Do they give a price for mahogany floors in the library?

 

[Whitelighter]

Hmm

The spec looks Similar (I too have the Salterns prices). I undertand there is a value to buying locally, and if we decide to go through with a purchase I will give Salterns the opportunity to be competitive. However, i have bought from Allert before and they area good big dealer. I certainly wont pay £10k for the privilege of drinking expensive coffee in poole.

With the Euro in **** this should only get cheaper as well. I wonder how quickly british dealers will pass on the saving? The other boat in contention is a Jeanneau NC11 (£50k more by the way) and the situation is the same there. The Calais dealer is very amenable and only 60 miles away.

 

[Whitelighter]

Do they give a price for mahogany floors in the library?

Ah, Google Translate - dont you just love it!!!!

O quite like the idea of a floating drawingroom. Do you think if I fit the bog out with book shelves I can refer to it as me Library??

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

I'd agree in general about the Hybrid option, but it is actualy a very good boat full stop with a good layout and fitout for the price, similar Brit and dutch stuff are maybe £50K more. So you can have the Hybrid stuff for free, which would be ideal for inland use or staying away from shore power type locations.

Although I have to admit I would probably never buy the Hybrid opiton as resale is going to be iffy, especialy if the batteries need replacing.

I would have thought the Hybrid option is the selling point? Otherwise I think a single cabin 33 footer has a limited resale market. It does seem a remarkably inexpensive boat given the technology in it and I think it will sell but you have to wonder how Greenline can do it for the money when established manufacturers can't offer their non hybrid 33 footers for anywhere the same price