hlb
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Ah so. The Freeman just gets bashed about in the F6, where as the bigger boats just steam through it. I see. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
MBM Cruises?
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hlb
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Re: No, malaprop was being rude
If it's got to the point of fisticuffs on the phone. Maybe it's time he was excommunicated. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
If it's got to the point of fisticuffs on the phone. Maybe it's time he was excommunicated. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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That's not quite what I meant. More about coping with boats that have different cruising speeds.
Driving an S28 upwind into an F6 on open water for any length of time doesn't fall into the "fun" category either, mainly cos of the ear-bashing I would get from swmbo and the 4-yr old.
Driving an S28 upwind into an F6 on open water for any length of time doesn't fall into the "fun" category either, mainly cos of the ear-bashing I would get from swmbo and the 4-yr old.
hlb
RIP
Right, so 24 boats can go today, one cant. Or maybe one boat can go, but the others have to stay. The posibilities are mind boggling. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
nonitoo
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Re: No, malaprop was being rude
I've thought about these cruises but never taken it any further. I can imagine that they could well be the way of 'unlocking' the door for less experienced skippers and enabling them to see that extended cruising is not the insurmountable problem they think it is.
They sound a great idea.
For myself (and SWMBO) we enjoy pottering back and forward across the channel by ourselves and have never been particularly bothered by it. Mind you, I have become very much a fair weather sailor since retiring and the weather has to be good before I even consider crossing.
Calais is only an hour away and Boulogne one hour and twenty minutes so given a half decent weather window we are off!!
More power to your collective elbows regarding the cruising in company if it encourages others to go further afield !!
Tom
I've thought about these cruises but never taken it any further. I can imagine that they could well be the way of 'unlocking' the door for less experienced skippers and enabling them to see that extended cruising is not the insurmountable problem they think it is.
They sound a great idea.
For myself (and SWMBO) we enjoy pottering back and forward across the channel by ourselves and have never been particularly bothered by it. Mind you, I have become very much a fair weather sailor since retiring and the weather has to be good before I even consider crossing.
Calais is only an hour away and Boulogne one hour and twenty minutes so given a half decent weather window we are off!!
More power to your collective elbows regarding the cruising in company if it encourages others to go further afield !!
Tom
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Nope, the way Neale does it is if it's no good for an S28, the whole fleet stays put.
A bit frustrating for the Broom 42's that can plough through anything, maybe. But they can always go ahead and break the group if they really want to.
dv.
A bit frustrating for the Broom 42's that can plough through anything, maybe. But they can always go ahead and break the group if they really want to.
dv.
Illusion
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Wow its amazing how quickly a thread on here now can go a bit pear shaped! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Anyway just a quick thank you to all of you who've responsed with some great feedback. We're now about 95% sure we'll give a crack this summer, so I'd better get to work with the form completion
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Anyway just a quick thank you to all of you who've responsed with some great feedback. We're now about 95% sure we'll give a crack this summer, so I'd better get to work with the form completion
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hlb
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I'm not knocking the MBY cruises, just wondering how it's achieved. We usually just bumble about a bit, with full tanks. Then if the weather comes right, head off some where. Or dependant on weather. Go the other way.
A decision to go to X on a particular future day, with 25 different sized boats, just seems doomed to failier.
But like I said, not knocking it.
A decision to go to X on a particular future day, with 25 different sized boats, just seems doomed to failier.
But like I said, not knocking it.
djefabs
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Re: No, malaprop was being rude
JFM, I'm afraid that Malaprop (chuggins?) is one of the few forumities that I found to be very arrogant and very self opinionated. I only met him once and that was enough. I would suggest you completely ignore him as so many others on this forum do. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
JFM, I'm afraid that Malaprop (chuggins?) is one of the few forumities that I found to be very arrogant and very self opinionated. I only met him once and that was enough. I would suggest you completely ignore him as so many others on this forum do. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
strakeryrius
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A decision to go to X on a particular future day, with 25 different sized boats, just seems doomed to failier.
From my experience with the weather off the S coast the last couple of years, just trying to plan to be in a particular place on a specific date with just 1 boat is doomed to failure 50% of the time, so with 25 boats of differing capabilities and skippers of differing competence it must be a total admin nightmare.
My hat is off to Neale for even trying to get these things organised and running smoothly. I would love to do one, but never seem to have the time free for the dates when they are organised.
A decision to go to X on a particular future day, with 25 different sized boats, just seems doomed to failier.
From my experience with the weather off the S coast the last couple of years, just trying to plan to be in a particular place on a specific date with just 1 boat is doomed to failure 50% of the time, so with 25 boats of differing capabilities and skippers of differing competence it must be a total admin nightmare.
My hat is off to Neale for even trying to get these things organised and running smoothly. I would love to do one, but never seem to have the time free for the dates when they are organised.
hlb
RIP
No, I've noticed this. They never seem to get there cruises right, for where I am or going to. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Kawasaki
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That's cos they know where your coming from /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
penpal
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Class Prejudices?
I take it that you think the Freeman should not be in the cruise. It maybe 35 years old and built like a tank, but with her new engines she can cruise all day at 10-12 knots. I appreciate she was not designed as a sea boat, but coastal and river, but there are many who have taken them farther afield.
I have the distinct feeling of some of the writers looking down their noses at my boat. Perhaps you think we are floating hillbillies?
I take it that you think the Freeman should not be in the cruise. It maybe 35 years old and built like a tank, but with her new engines she can cruise all day at 10-12 knots. I appreciate she was not designed as a sea boat, but coastal and river, but there are many who have taken them farther afield.
I have the distinct feeling of some of the writers looking down their noses at my boat. Perhaps you think we are floating hillbillies?
aviator
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In the main these cruises are excellent. The social side is very important and handled well plus there is a tendency to go places you otherwise would not go - e.g. Brugges for us.
For those who have never made the channel crossing there is the help to actually 'do it' which as others have pointed out should not be a problem for most boaters anyway.
Reading the weather is the biggest skill IMHO and everyone needs that and a cruise does sort of take away the urgency of that for the individual.
When we did our first cruise and crossing of channel we had to bring our boat round from the Thames to Lymington which as someone pointed out was more of a task than actually crossing the channel.
We have made many friends on the cruises and learned a lot from sharing experiences.
The downside is the ability of the team to deal with the weather accurately. There is no such thing as really accurate weather so you need to form your own conclusions.
A couple of years ago we had friends joining us for a Channel MBM cruise and they had a strict time slot for their hols which was precious time for them. We drove to the first meeting from Brighton as the weather was so duff. 'Hopefully we get off tomorrow or next day' was the message. I thought otherwise and we got a very cheap week booked same day to Egypt going next day. In the event the cruise got as far as the IOW.
This is not to decry Neale or his sterling work but just to point out to people that if you book a week or two holiday you cannot guarantee anything - same as personal boating of course!
Oh and the best cruise was to the Channel Islands where it seemed that Tom Gregory had a 'friend' in every port. I learned so much from Tom about boating.
One gripe about the new regs is that it seems that the priority goes to new comers (no probs there and unchanged) but the rest of the places is now a lottery not in order of getting the paperwork in for booking after other places filled,
Not very keen on lotteries myself but will be booking again all the same. Last year got rather tied up with our round britain trip to book ;-)
For those who have never made the channel crossing there is the help to actually 'do it' which as others have pointed out should not be a problem for most boaters anyway.
Reading the weather is the biggest skill IMHO and everyone needs that and a cruise does sort of take away the urgency of that for the individual.
When we did our first cruise and crossing of channel we had to bring our boat round from the Thames to Lymington which as someone pointed out was more of a task than actually crossing the channel.
We have made many friends on the cruises and learned a lot from sharing experiences.
The downside is the ability of the team to deal with the weather accurately. There is no such thing as really accurate weather so you need to form your own conclusions.
A couple of years ago we had friends joining us for a Channel MBM cruise and they had a strict time slot for their hols which was precious time for them. We drove to the first meeting from Brighton as the weather was so duff. 'Hopefully we get off tomorrow or next day' was the message. I thought otherwise and we got a very cheap week booked same day to Egypt going next day. In the event the cruise got as far as the IOW.
This is not to decry Neale or his sterling work but just to point out to people that if you book a week or two holiday you cannot guarantee anything - same as personal boating of course!
Oh and the best cruise was to the Channel Islands where it seemed that Tom Gregory had a 'friend' in every port. I learned so much from Tom about boating.
One gripe about the new regs is that it seems that the priority goes to new comers (no probs there and unchanged) but the rest of the places is now a lottery not in order of getting the paperwork in for booking after other places filled,
Not very keen on lotteries myself but will be booking again all the same. Last year got rather tied up with our round britain trip to book ;-)
Whitelighter
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Penpal,
I for one applaud you for giving it a go. boating is about getting out there and you certainly seem to have done that. OK, so the weather caught you out a bit but thats how you learn.
I had a similar problem with my SWMBO after a trip to Brighton. It was all my fault but she ended up with a big bruise and bashed confidence and didnt really want to use the boat for a while after that. take it gently, do a few shorter trips and Paris will look much more acheivable.
I for one applaud you for giving it a go. boating is about getting out there and you certainly seem to have done that. OK, so the weather caught you out a bit but thats how you learn.
I had a similar problem with my SWMBO after a trip to Brighton. It was all my fault but she ended up with a big bruise and bashed confidence and didnt really want to use the boat for a while after that. take it gently, do a few shorter trips and Paris will look much more acheivable.
penpal
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Thanks
hlb
RIP
floating hillbillies? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
No. But you just cant go in the sort of weather that a bigger newer boat can.
It's just a fact, thats all.
No. But you just cant go in the sort of weather that a bigger newer boat can.
It's just a fact, thats all.