alant
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Anyone got it?
Does it make any difference to your available work?
Does it make any difference to your available work?
Master 200 GT
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gavin_lacey
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Doesnt the commercially endorsed yachtmaster cert cover up to 200 tons nowadays? Raised from 80 in the last reshuffle of regulations?
alant
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RYA YM certs, are not endorsed for STCW95, & not recognised in many other countries because of this.
jamesmcd
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RYA Yacht Master Certificates will be commercially endorsed if your STCW95 certificates and ENG1 Medical Certificate are sent to the RYA for approval.
If you already have Yachtmaster Offshore you would be better off working towards your Yachtmaster Ocean and then Officer of the Watch (OOW) having gained sea time... assuming you are looking to progress in the industry.
If you already have Yachtmaster Offshore you would be better off working towards your Yachtmaster Ocean and then Officer of the Watch (OOW) having gained sea time... assuming you are looking to progress in the industry.
alant
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1) Already am commercially endorsed, but RYA tickets do NOT show STCW95, which many countries insist on (will not accept stand alone STCW95 certs, must be on a cert of competance).
2) Already am YMO & have been for many years.
3) Have been "in the industry" for more years than I want to remember, so have "gained sea time..." galore.
What I wanted, was feedback regarding any benefits anyone could give regarding any improvement in their opportunities having got a Master 200 ticket.
2) Already am YMO & have been for many years.
3) Have been "in the industry" for more years than I want to remember, so have "gained sea time..." galore.
What I wanted, was feedback regarding any benefits anyone could give regarding any improvement in their opportunities having got a Master 200 ticket.
islandsailor
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Can I ask what the largest vessel (in tonnage and length) is that you have worked on as Captain or First Mate and how much sea time you have logged on a vessel over 15m in the last 10 years, as this will help me give you my opinion on your question
alant
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Largest vessel LOA 45m
Heaviest Tonnage 185 GRT
Heaviest Tonnage 185 GRT
alant
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Largest vessel LOA 45m
Heaviest Tonnage 185 GRT
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As Master - these are not 'yachts'.
Heaviest Tonnage 185 GRT
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As Master - these are not 'yachts'.
Doug_Stormforce
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Alan
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Already am commercially endorsed, but RYA tickets do NOT show STCW95, which many countries insist on (will not accept stand alone STCW95 certs, must be on a cert of competence)....
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In my experience, there are very few authorities that will not accept the YM in fact I have never struggled with it. However you can have your YM Offshore and/or Ocean endorsed with the words STCW'95 blah blah if you hold STCW'95 Basic Safety (4 courses). I have been told (and this is hearsay) that Luxembourg will not recognise the non STCW ’95 tickets; however we have never even quoted for a job on a Lux flagged vessel far less had to satisfy any requirements
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...Have been "in the industry" for more years than I want to remember, so have "gained sea time..." galore.)....
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Does not matter with regards to the suggestion above, you could take master 200 now (subject to ENG1, Medical Care/First Aid, GOC/ROC and basic safety) however if you want to get involved with bigger boats then OOW is the ticket to go for, sea time for the tickets after that only starts counting once you have the OOW ticket, you can not count sea time already logged. Might not seam fair but that is the rules
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What I wanted was feedback regarding any benefits anyone could give regarding any improvement in their opportunities having got a Master 200 ticket.
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If you have full time work as a freelance YM then it can’t improve amount of work only fees. The 200 ticket route is a bit of a dead end; our team relief skipper some pretty big yacht (measured in m not feet) and have never been asked for the Master 200.
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Already am commercially endorsed, but RYA tickets do NOT show STCW95, which many countries insist on (will not accept stand alone STCW95 certs, must be on a cert of competence)....
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In my experience, there are very few authorities that will not accept the YM in fact I have never struggled with it. However you can have your YM Offshore and/or Ocean endorsed with the words STCW'95 blah blah if you hold STCW'95 Basic Safety (4 courses). I have been told (and this is hearsay) that Luxembourg will not recognise the non STCW ’95 tickets; however we have never even quoted for a job on a Lux flagged vessel far less had to satisfy any requirements
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...Have been "in the industry" for more years than I want to remember, so have "gained sea time..." galore.)....
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Does not matter with regards to the suggestion above, you could take master 200 now (subject to ENG1, Medical Care/First Aid, GOC/ROC and basic safety) however if you want to get involved with bigger boats then OOW is the ticket to go for, sea time for the tickets after that only starts counting once you have the OOW ticket, you can not count sea time already logged. Might not seam fair but that is the rules
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What I wanted was feedback regarding any benefits anyone could give regarding any improvement in their opportunities having got a Master 200 ticket.
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If you have full time work as a freelance YM then it can’t improve amount of work only fees. The 200 ticket route is a bit of a dead end; our team relief skipper some pretty big yacht (measured in m not feet) and have never been asked for the Master 200.
alant
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However you can have your YM Offshore and/or Ocean endorsed with the words STCW'95 blah blah if you hold STCW'95 Basic Safety (4 courses).
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Have just got this confirmed by RYA thanks.
Master 200 route considered, because of a recent problem I had with officialdom in Norway (survey vessel). Also, many companies operating commercial (non-yachty) vessels in UK require this.
The Master 200, also seems to allow 24m+, as long as up to 200grt (coded) or 500grt (yachts).
"our team relief skipper some pretty big yacht (measured in m not feet) and have never been asked for the Master 200."
Have they got Master 200 though?
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Have just got this confirmed by RYA thanks.
Master 200 route considered, because of a recent problem I had with officialdom in Norway (survey vessel). Also, many companies operating commercial (non-yachty) vessels in UK require this.
The Master 200, also seems to allow 24m+, as long as up to 200grt (coded) or 500grt (yachts).
"our team relief skipper some pretty big yacht (measured in m not feet) and have never been asked for the Master 200."
Have they got Master 200 though?
Doug_Stormforce
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Have they got Master 200 though?
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No all Offshore and Oceans with STCW' 95 endorsement, the certifcate say 200 tonne so owners insurerers are happy.
Im not saying the M200 is worthless but we have never needed it.
It's also a deadend as a certification route (i.e. you can't then jump to Master 500).
Have they got Master 200 though?
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No all Offshore and Oceans with STCW' 95 endorsement, the certifcate say 200 tonne so owners insurerers are happy.
Im not saying the M200 is worthless but we have never needed it.
It's also a deadend as a certification route (i.e. you can't then jump to Master 500).
islandsailor
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Alant,
I took my Class IV when the MCA code for large yachts first appeared, initially because I would have lost my job of 15 years if I hadn't, although I felt resentful of both the time and money I had to invest, once I started the process I learned a great deal, I returned to the med a far greater seaman than when I left. I no longer use that qualification or work in the luxury yacht market but IMHO take the qualification because you want to learn rather than purely to get a better paid job. As for the Norway incident it doesn't matter what paperwork you have for your vessel crew or yourself you will always have local problems - that's life!
I took my Class IV when the MCA code for large yachts first appeared, initially because I would have lost my job of 15 years if I hadn't, although I felt resentful of both the time and money I had to invest, once I started the process I learned a great deal, I returned to the med a far greater seaman than when I left. I no longer use that qualification or work in the luxury yacht market but IMHO take the qualification because you want to learn rather than purely to get a better paid job. As for the Norway incident it doesn't matter what paperwork you have for your vessel crew or yourself you will always have local problems - that's life!
maxi77
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Have they got Master 200 though?
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No all Offshore and Oceans with STCW' 95 endorsement, the certifcate say 200 tonne so owners insurerers are happy.
Im not saying the M200 is worthless but we have never needed it.
It's also a deadend as a certification route (i.e. you can't then jump to Master 500).
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YOur website seems to have problems as thelinks to various pages do not work.
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Have they got Master 200 though?
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No all Offshore and Oceans with STCW' 95 endorsement, the certifcate say 200 tonne so owners insurerers are happy.
Im not saying the M200 is worthless but we have never needed it.
It's also a deadend as a certification route (i.e. you can't then jump to Master 500).
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YOur website seems to have problems as thelinks to various pages do not work.
alant
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I took my Class IV when the MCA code for large yachts first appeared
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This is different level to M 200 though, isn't it.
Learning I have no probs with, if it improves capability.
However, want to make sure I'm not 'wasting' resources going directly to M 200. On this thread, getting conflicting reports.
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This is different level to M 200 though, isn't it.
Learning I have no probs with, if it improves capability.
However, want to make sure I'm not 'wasting' resources going directly to M 200. On this thread, getting conflicting reports.
Doug_Stormforce
Well-Known Member
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YOur website seems to have problems as thelinks to various pages do not work.
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Yes we know, hence the big red text that sais "This site is under development."
This is far from ideal. Our website design company have had problmes and the whole job has dragged on far longer than it should ever have. The pages you are after are all written but I belive its the online shop feature that is not integrated
YOur website seems to have problems as thelinks to various pages do not work.
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Yes we know, hence the big red text that sais "This site is under development."
This is far from ideal. Our website design company have had problmes and the whole job has dragged on far longer than it should ever have. The pages you are after are all written but I belive its the online shop feature that is not integrated
