Marine Mingers World Cup (TM HF)

Bouba said:
Is that really necessary? Criticising a man's boat is one thing but trolling just makes the rest of us look bad.
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+1
Surely you don't judge everyone on their looks.

Personally it's a good thing we all like different things.
I can't see the appeal of seawards/lochins/nelsons and other dark, narrow boats but if that's someone's idea of a good time who am I to criticise.
That sort of comment shows you in a pretty poor light to be honest
 
I had a a pop at Sir Phil, and so what who care a hoot,

there will be a few million people up and down the country who are all thinking the same thing. But from now on I will keep it to boating topics only.
 
Portofino said:
What about the over 100ft category
I nominate this -it does not look straight :)
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You're not the first person to say that about some of Sir Philip Green's assets...
 
grumpy_o_g said:
You're not the first person to say that about some of Sir Philip Green's assets...
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Plus 1. As I said get down the gym Sir Phil. Then you may have the energy to put right the pension pot. I really feel for those people, worked all their lives to find that gone. Same as Robert Maxwell. Terrible
 
paul salliss said:
Plus 1. As I said get down the gym Sir Phil. Then you may have the energy to put right the pension pot. I really feel for those people, worked all their lives to find that gone. Same as Robert Maxwell. Terrible
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My moral compass is spinning ,having posted a knowingly provocative pic .
Those two boat owners are not "the same "
There's a clear differentiation .
Lady Ghislaine s owner via bullying the other trustees actually took control of the pension fund and made alledgedly illegal transfers to other accounts to support the Co , before it went bankrupt --losing it all .

Lionheart,s owner has not broken any laws .
He,s a copy of a I think a good summary of the recent events .

BHS is not the only deffined benefit pension in deficit ,in trouble --- it's the one in the media that you know about !
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Green didn’t “plunder” the BHS pension scheme, and Field’s over-colourful claims have lent credence to Green’s defence that the MPs’ report was the “predetermined and inaccurate output of a biased and unfair process”. But the case against him is not just that he ran down the capital in BHS to a level that was fatally unsustainable when trading conditions deteriorated.

It is also that he then sold the business for nothing to an unsuitable buyer without making reasonable provision for the solvency of its pension fund, which he is accused of neglecting over a period of many years and which is now in deficit to the tune of £571m. Of course, the years in question were tough for all defined-benefits schemes. From a surplus in 2008, the financial crisis led to a steep decline in the value of assets while at the same time long-term interest rates plunged, increasing liabilities (ie, the cost of paying future pensions).

So Green was unlucky?

It’s hard to consider a billionaire who’s just taken delivery of his third superyacht unlucky. But the facts are that when Green was (quite legally) taking his vast dividends from BHS there wasn’t a pension deficit and no one was predicting that within a few years interest rates would collapse to historic lows. The BHS collapse raises questions of corporate governance and questions for policymakers over the tax rules that privilege debt over equity.

The vilification of Green in relation to the pension scheme raises questions for executives and shareholders of other firms over whether they might be retrospectively penalised for ballooning deficits that are beyond their control. That said, after Green transferred ownership of BHS to his family firms, he failed to address the deficits at its pension schemes, despite warnings from the trustees.
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I can,t see the conection between Sir Philips stature ,physical condition , "Gym" "energy" etc .
 
Time for a long reply.
First I'm pleased the thread is back on track, I wasn't impressed with the Sealine 330 at the Paris boat show.
But to recap and I hope put the matter to rest. Criticising a 64 year old man because his body doesn't impress you is really going too far. And how did Trump get pulled into this? When Trump thought about running for president he realised that financially it was going to cost him a yacht. Surely here, if no where else, we can respect that.
As for ugly superyachts, I think they need to be considered with a different yardstick (a very long one). The other week JP Getty's old yacht parked next to me. I think it's the most beautiful motorboat in the world, but what did people think about her lines in 1928, were they scathing?
A lot of superyachts are for people from countries where wealth is measured in glitz that to the western eye can be over the top. I also think the purpose of a superyacht is first and foremost that the living and entertaining on board is sublime, none of them fail in that. As for the outside, it's meant to impress and it does that by its scale.
And it also impresses by its shine, no matter how old or how many days it's been at sea. I can't do that with a small motorboat.
 
I should not have used the word crap to describe the new Sealines. I apologise I should have said ugly. I was berthed almost next to the new German Sealines for a few months, NOT keen at all but crap was a poor choice of a word.

Have never been a Sealine man but convinced that the old ones look more solid is what I should have said
 
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