Marina Hose Removal for H&S

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In Guernsey I saw a sign today form the harbour authority that all marina hoses are being removed for Health and Safety reasons.

I checked my calendar and it was not the first of April ?

I understand that this is to reduce the risk of legionella and other nasties growing in the water in the hose?

Personally before I put the end in my tank I let the water run at full power for a minute or so.

How many of your marinas have removed the hoses for H&S reasons?

How many of you use a chlorine based treatment in your tanks, does chlorine kill Legionaires nasties?
 
I always add Aqua Sol when I fill the tank - never had any Deli Bellie problems yet. I hope they are leaving the taps - is it just the case that each boat has to carry its own hose?
 
Surely you people realise that something needs to be done about the huge death toll resulting from drinking water from marina taps.
 
Yes this is another nonsense driven by legislation, insurance companies, and the fear of getting sued. It started a couple of years back. We always used 'the boatyard hoses' then just replaced them with our own when they were removed. Legionaires apparently thrives in warm humid conditions so I doubt it would get passed from an outdoor hose in our climate. As for 'catching something because the hose fell in the river', well I have never has so much as an upset stomach since 1980. I flush my tank every year, and use it regularly refilling every couple of weeks, but have never used Aquatabs or similar.
I think Bandit is right, just flush the hose for a minute and be sensible. It is a damn nuisance having to carry hoses, but good for somebody's business.
 
This was done to death when it happened over here a few years ago. It isn't H&S for infection, it is as someone touched on above to do with back siphoning and legislation imposed by the water supply companies. Basically if a hose is left hanging in the sea with the tap turned on and mains pressure is lost, sea water is drawn back and will contaminate the mains supply. Marinas are given the option of fitting anti syphon valves to their mains supply, a cost, or removing hosepipes, a reduction in costs. Some take the second option.

Read all about it: http://www.wras.co.uk/PDF_Files/IGNMarinas.pdf
 
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l'escargot said:
This was done to death when it happened over here a few years ago. It isn't H&S for infection, it is as someone touched on above to do with back siphoning and legislation imposed by the water supply companies. Basically if a hose is left hanging in the sea with the tap turned on and mains pressure is lost, sea water is drawn back and will contaminate the mains supply. Marinas are given the option of fitting anti syphon valves to their mains supply, a cost, or removing hosepipes, a reduction in costs. Some take the second option.

Read all about it: http://www.wras.co.uk/PDF_Files/IGNMarinas.pdf
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The Health & Safety Policia berth at Yarmouth (IOW) too. I was told this nonsense several years ago by the HM there.
 
sailorman said:
non return valves should sort it
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Have a look at the link in my post above, it tells you how to sort it. The marina can pay to have the system bought up to the requirements of the regulations or they can take away the hoses and save the money they spend on them. Hardly surprising that some will go for the second cheaper option.
 
l'escargot said:
You didn't read the link then? It's not nonsense, it's the Water Supply Regulations 1999 in England - Google "backflow prevention" if you don't believe it, it applies to industry and agriculture too.
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My thread response was not intended to directly quote your post, just the general theme that removing fresh water hoses was IMHO a nonsense. The reason I was given was bacterial contamination in the hose, not back syphoning into the supply pipe work. A quick flush clears the hose, a double check valve prevents back syphoning.
 
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superheat6k said:
No I didn't read the link. So - ... Ok IMHO it's nonsense. This was a water hose, not a fixed plumbing installation. If YOUR interpretation of the regs you quote (which I haven't and won't be reading) is correct then the vast majority of Marinas may be in contravention.
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The hose connects to a fixed plumbing installation. Not my interpretation, the regs are quite clear and it is how they are interpreted by the plumbing industry and clearly marinas in this case. You won't be able to tell whether or not marinas comply unless you look at their installation and see whether it complies with the regulations that you're not going to read though will you? Interesting approach to a discussion: "I won't read the regulations and don't have a clue what I'm talking about but in my opinion they are nonsense and anyone who tells me about them is talking nonsense...".
 
l'escargot said:
The hose connects to a fixed plumbing installation. Not my interpretation, the regs are quite clear and it is how they are interpreted by the plumbing industry and clearly marinas in this case. You won't be able to tell whether or not marinas comply unless you look at their installation and see whether it complies with the regulations that you're not going to read though will you? Interesting approach to a discussion: "I won't read the regulations and don't have a clue what I'm talking about but in my opinion they are nonsense and anyone who tells me about them is talking nonsense...".
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I have since edited my response, so the above statement is now out of context, as was my prior response pre editing.
 
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