flotsam123
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Hi - does anyone know how many man hours can I expect to be charged to remove an old Volvo engine and replace it with a reconditioned Volvo? Has anyone had a similar experience?
Man hours to replace Volvo engine?
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Bandit
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A bit difficult to tell without any information.
What is the boat?
Shaft or Sterndrive?
Engines a single I assume and a like for like replacemnt or different?
Is the access straightforward or do you have to remove half the cabin and built in furniture?
What is the boat?
Shaft or Sterndrive?
Engines a single I assume and a like for like replacemnt or different?
Is the access straightforward or do you have to remove half the cabin and built in furniture?
PCUK
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If it's like for like then about one day. If substantially different then up to a week.
volvopaul
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Hmmmm I dont think so, imagine its in a broom, it takes best part of a day to remove the furniture and floor, then the roof panel.
Some sterndrive sealines and sunseekers, martinique eg, needs a shipwright in to cut out sections of grp and floor before you can even think about getting the lumps out.
Some sedan style boats eg princess/fairline may need an hiab or steel structure making up to lift the engine up and out to the cockpit area then a lift out on to flatbed truck etc.
Every boats different so get quotes from different companies, I may be able to quote you if you wish.
PCUK
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Good point Paul. I was thinking of an outdrive jobby with easy access straight into the cockpit!
SteveE
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I am not a mechanic, but as Paul says there must be so many variables in this, it must nearly come down to a boat by boat quote... There are so many different boat options that it must be impossible to quote without seeing each boat?
String and Lengh springs to mind.....
String and Lengh springs to mind.....
hlb
RIP
A yard with a bloody great fork lift helps. Maybe one that does boat storage. It can just reach in and take the engines out. I had two Tam D 41's taken out the back door
and put back in again. No probs with the right gear.
and put back in again. No probs with the right gear.
flotsam123
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Hi all - its a Princess 25 twin petrol engine with stern drives and we are replacing one of the engines with a similar engine. Access is straightforward and the yard has a hoist.
volvopaul
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Id quote 2/3 days as all sorts of nasties appear, sheared bolts etc bad wiring corroded parts.
Then there is the leg as it requires removal, so new bellows, pins, cables, water intake hoses etc, then add seized up ring bolts, the list goes on and on.
Then there is the leg as it requires removal, so new bellows, pins, cables, water intake hoses etc, then add seized up ring bolts, the list goes on and on.
maverickofpoole
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I had an engine replacement last year. Just for a straight swap like for like it took best part of 2 days what with the leg removal and refitting etc. That was with easy access and a friendly yard forklift driver. Hard to deduce the exact cost as other items were involved but was in the region of £900 including the engineer coming out on sea trials for a few hours. Re the sea trials well worth paying for this service although I would imagine this should be included within any quoted price.
I thought about changing brand of engine and because of the adaptations needed to beds etc was quoted in the region of 4k . Decided not to go that route and pleased I didn't. In the end I was happy(ish) with most of the costs involved and never felt ripped off at all.
As said by others get 2 or 3 quotes from recommended engineers then make your decision based not necessarily on price alone. You will get a feel for a tradesman with the way he or she is or isn't able to answer questions and whether you feel able to trust them. It can be a minefield getting like for like quotes so make sure everyone knows exactly what you expect them to include in the quote.
Good luck
Martin
I thought about changing brand of engine and because of the adaptations needed to beds etc was quoted in the region of 4k . Decided not to go that route and pleased I didn't. In the end I was happy(ish) with most of the costs involved and never felt ripped off at all.
As said by others get 2 or 3 quotes from recommended engineers then make your decision based not necessarily on price alone. You will get a feel for a tradesman with the way he or she is or isn't able to answer questions and whether you feel able to trust them. It can be a minefield getting like for like quotes so make sure everyone knows exactly what you expect them to include in the quote.
Good luck
Martin
flotsam123
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Hi Martin - thanks for your reply (and Volvo Paul). I now have some idea of what to expect. You've both been helpful - many thanks.
Regards Paul
Regards Paul
Volvo KAD 32 tfft
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Well mine is a KAD32 with Duo prop outdrive,
with an overhead beam and block and tackle available, open cockpit ( engine cover removed) so what do you think the timescale is to remove the engine? are there any stumbling blocks to lifting out a KAD32? regards
ian38_39
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I know this is an old thread but I noticed that in order to change the engine a couple of people have stated the leg needs to come off.
If there is enough room to slide the engine forward I wondered if this was still the case and why?
If there is enough room to slide the engine forward I wondered if this was still the case and why?
strakeryrius
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What do you think is likely to happen to the sterndrive leg once it is disconnected from the main engine assembly and just left dangling out of the back of the boat once the engine has been removed.
oldgit
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Err nothing happens at all,except lots of space to do all those awkward cleaning jobs,paint the bilge,change that outdrive inner transom bearing or just stare at the emptiness and worry about just how much it going to cost this time
What happens when water meets transom bearings!
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volvopaul
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Simple answer.
DPE /DPH type drives have to be removed to enable access to the 6 bolts that sandwich the bobtail housing through the shield, you cant remove the engine without, unless you split the engine at the bellhousing, which is not the correct way in volvos eyes.
Sx type drives, you undo the rams and 6 nuts, pull off the drive as the shaft goes right through the shield into the drive coupling on the flywheel, you can then remove the 2 rear bolts onto the shield, similar to a mercruiser, and the 2 front feet.
oldgit
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sounds to me if the old stuff is a lot easier to work on ?
ian38_39
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Does the same hold true for 290 Dp with 431b's?
I was under the impression that should it be needed the engines could be changed with the boat in the water.
Seemed logical that you just unbolted it at the Bell Housing, what would be the repercussions of doing this?
I was under the impression that should it be needed the engines could be changed with the boat in the water.
Seemed logical that you just unbolted it at the Bell Housing, what would be the repercussions of doing this?
Volvo KAD 32 tfft
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My KAD32 came out in exactly the way described by Volvopaul, so you have your answer in a nutshell
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Next job for me is to remove the mercruiser engine starting with a seized hinge pin, unless anyone can tell me how to get the engine out and the transom plate off without removing?
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ian38_39
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This was a friends boat during a trip to Holland when an engine swop in the water during a two week holiday was called for
