Main anchor for SO35

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I have a Jeanneau SO35, bought this year in France. It came with a Danforth main anchor on a tilting bow roller - picture here. I'm thinking of replacing it with a Rocna - or possibly a Delta. It's for the Med.

Has anyone fitted one of these to a similar-sized Jeanneau with the same stem fitting? Is the point going to hit the bow? Do I need a stainless steel plate on the bow?

Dave
s/y Vigdis
 
Tigger has a Rocna whith a roller fitting that looks shorter than yours. The anchor's tip does not touch the hull. Tigger does have a steel plate to protech the bows, but I don't think the anchor actually ever touched it.

The Rocna is great, by the way.
 
I have a SO35 and replaced the useless and underweight danforth with a Delta. The boat is also in the med. The anchor locker lid needs a little filing but otherwise it works very well with no dragging, ever!
 
I have a 16kg Kobra on the bow roller: perfectly fitted, and no need for a SS plate.
BTW you haven't got a Danforth, but a FOB HP.
 
Good Lord, a whole bunch of fellow SO35 owners!
I have a 'proper' 35lb CQR which does not touch the bow. No problems in 3 seasons of use.

I also have a 20kg Bruce which I swap to just for fun. No problems with that either.

The only one which does not fit on the roller is my Aluminium FX16, but thats so easy to handle manually anyway.

I will be fitting a stainless plate to the bow, its just not on the urgent list.
 
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Hi Dave, and welcome to the forum - I came back to England for a few weeks on Sunday - It's a bit cold!!

I am also seriously considering a Rocna, and will have to ask the same question for a Moody 44. There are a few people here with Rocnas, so there is a chance that someone may have an SO35.

ISTR that Rocna will send a cardboard copy for you to check the fit - but I may be getting mixed up with another anchor maker.

Craig of Rocna posts here, so I'm sure he will be along shortly with some help and advice.

You should be aware that anchor posts tend to cause some controversy here, so dont be surprised, or put off, by some of the responses.

Cheers

Richard
 
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I have a Jeanneau SO35, bought this year in France. It came with a Danforth main anchor on a tilting bow roller - picture here. I'm thinking of replacing it with a Rocna - or possibly a Delta. It's for the Med.

Has anyone fitted one of these to a similar-sized Jeanneau with the same stem fitting? Is the point going to hit the bow? Do I need a stainless steel plate on the bow?

[/ QUOTE ]I don't have any pix of the specific boat with a Rocna but I'm fairly sure it will fit without problems. From a look at your photo it should.

The Rocna actually sits very slightly better on rollers than a Delta of the same size (the tip ends up a bit farther forward and out than that of the Delta) and the shape of the shank means it locks itself home if pulled tight (no vertical movement). I can send a PDF showing the Rocna profile overlaid on that of the Delta, showing all the important points of comparison with regard to fitting, if it would be of interest.

I'll send you now a PM with a link to our dimensions info, which includes full scale patterns which you can use to make a mock-up if you want to be 100% certain.

You could also get in touch with Jeanneau and ask them to look at it for you; we can send CAD etc to them which can be used by them for launch/retrieval simulations etc.
 
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I'll send you now a PM with a link to our dimensions info, which includes full scale patterns which you can use to make a mock-up if you want to be 100% certain.

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Cound you not post the link here as I would like to check if your type of anchor would fit my custom designed bow roller stem fitting for my new yacht
 
Sgeir,
I think the Fisherman is an outmoded frm for anchoring these days, its so difficult to stor anywhere. Thats why I like my shiny FX16 with its articulating bits for digging into kelp.
Not that we have a lot kelp where I am , but you never know.

Any way, we dont need much of an anchor on SO35s, as they dont weigh much.

Thats why itys not worth the bother.

Still, I have to say that the anchor roller ssetup on an SO35 is far and away the best I have seen on any boat, modern or MAB. The swinging portion of the starboard roller carrier and the shape of the nylon roller are perfect for CQR stowage.

Much better than the cheap old Brittany thing that comes as standard that they were trying to fob us off with at the boat show
 
In Turkey, where I sail, a lot of boats have locally made copies of the Bugel anchor, which are claimed to work very well, and are much cheaper than the official brands. Do not be put off by stories of poor build quality, as the ones I have seen are good. The worst anchors I have seen were some Chinese copies of the CQR which were probably cast rather than forged. There has been a lot of criticism of the CQR by protagonists of newer designs but my 60lb CQR has held the Jeanneau 45.2 in a force 9, so I guess the 35lb version, provided it is the genuine article and not some copy, should be alright for a 35. I do think however that a Bugel of similar weight might be better, particularly where it has to dig though weed.
 
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There has been a lot of criticism of the CQR by protagonists of newer designs but my 60lb CQR has held the Jeanneau 45.2 in a force 9, so I guess the 35lb version, provided it is the genuine article and not some copy, should be alright for a 35. I do think however that a Bugel of similar weight might be better, particularly where it has to dig though weed.

[/ QUOTE ]I've never been terribly impressed by the quality of the above water tests that supposedly simulate anchoring conditions, ie laying them on their side in sand, and then pulling them (with a tractor in the case of the tests iirc).

Our 35lb CQR (one of the proper original made in Scotland ones) have held us in at least an F8, though, as Jim says, not effective in kelp. The fisherman has proved most effective in kelp, Both came with the boat, along with a 25lb plough kedge anchor, so I'm not sure I can see much point in investing in a new anchor.
 
Whilst the 'die-hards' will say a CQR is what you want - and I can see the point if you have one already and need not replace - if you are definatlely buying a new main anchor then the CQR is expensive, so would not choose out of price considerations. Neither would I purchase on performance - the modern anchors set quicker and more easily than a CQR if nothing else. Personally would choose a Rocna or Spade, or maybe a Delta, particularly if you will be anchoring in firm sand.
 
Sgeir,
very sage like, after all, do you carry a tractor to set your anchor with? No, I think not, you might just manage a generator on a sack barrow, not much use for ploughing your furrow in adverse conditions.

Investing in a new anchor? A misnomer, I feel sure.
 
Thanks to all for the helpful replies.

I don't think contacting Jeanneau is likely to yield results. I emailed them (in French) about the nut holding the gooseneck which fell off; I suspected that it had been wrongly assembled. After bouncing the email around internally they just gave me the name of the dealer in the UK. Null points.

That was my first post on the YBW forum, though I've often read it. I was surprised and delighted by the number and speed of the responses. I was unsure, though, whether to post here or on the PBO board - this being a technical question. I really wanted to find someone who has one and I thought that the cruising community would be appropriate. Any guidance on which forum to use or do most people read both?

Dave
 
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