Lulworth Cove buoys ?

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I might spend a night in Lulworth Cove tomorrow (24 ft bilge keeler). Does anyone know if there is a buoy I could borrow? Or is it only authoring?
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Mike
 
I am not aware of any buoys available to yachts. The anchorage (eastern side of the cove) tends to be quite uncomfortable. If it's the weekend and the ranges are clear I would suggest Worbarrow bay. Excellent at either end depending on the wind. From the west (Mupe) end it's a pleasant walk to Lulworth; from the east you can explore Tyneham.
 
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Sabresaior,

beware of the swell which can quickly build up and go into Lulworth making it downright dangerous.

As for the gunnery ranges - ask my Dad who had a shell splash just in front of his boat, or the Test Pilot I knew who fired rockets then saw the boat ahead !

I was given this number to find out if anything's going on at the ranges, seems worth a try;

01929 404819
 
I'd second Vic's suggestion and recommend you give Lulworth a miss and go to Worbarrow as far more comfortable and safer. As to mooring buoys, they usually belong to someone else and it's gross bad manners to use them, without the owners permission (apart from the fact that they might be meant for an 11' dinghy.)
 
I'd second Vic's suggestion and recommend you give Lulworth a miss and go to Worbarrow as far more comfortable and safer. As to mooring buoys, they usually belong to someone else and it's gross bad manners to use them, without the owners permission (apart from the fact that they might be meant for an 11' dinghy.)

It can be reasonably argued that it's gross bad manners to occupy a small anchorage with a buoy that prevents others anchoring in that position. Fair enough if theres plenty of space otherwise. Any mooring has to be laid to take its usual boat in a storm, so unless the OP hangs on it through that he is unlikely to overstress a mooring in serviceable condition, which if it isn't is even worse bad manners for wasting the anchoring opportunity altogether to nobodys benefit.

If the owner arrives it is to be expected that the visitor leaves,so he should not leave the boat, but I don't see it as bad manners to occupy a mooring. It might be dodgy practice, not knowing what condition it's in, but not for the reasons above.
We might own the mooring, but not the space, we only get a licence to have a mooring laid.
 
It can be reasonably argued that it's gross bad manners to occupy a small anchorage with a buoy that prevents others anchoring in that position. Fair enough if theres plenty of space otherwise. Any mooring has to be laid to take its usual boat in a storm, so unless the OP hangs on it through that he is unlikely to overstress a mooring in serviceable condition, which if it isn't is even worse bad manners for wasting the anchoring opportunity altogether to nobodys benefit.

If the owner arrives it is to be expected that the visitor leaves,so he should not leave the boat, but I don't see it as bad manners to occupy a mooring. It might be dodgy practice, not knowing what condition it's in, but not for the reasons above.
We might own the mooring, but not the space, we only get a licence to have a mooring laid.

Shall we agree to disagree on the subject? No doubt you'd be equally relaxed about someone borrowing your dinghy to row out to a friend anchored off?
 
Shall we agree to disagree on the subject? No doubt you'd be equally relaxed about someone borrowing your dinghy to row out to a friend anchored off?

If you want some one to agree to disagree maybe try not making the other point of view out as grossly bad mannered...

As far as I am concerned I will happily pick up a mooring I deem suitable in fair weather, if some one asks me to move I will be onboard to move off...

There has been countless threads on this and variations there off, always guaranteed to get the forums alight.. The similarities between borrowing a dinghy are hugely different, the fact is we sail in an increasingly crowded waterway. Means continuing small acts of friendliness/ understanding will make boating whole lot less pleasant...
 
As far as I am concerned I will happily pick up a mooring I deem suitable in fair weather, if some one asks me to move I will be onboard to move off...

There has been countless threads on this and variations there off, always guaranteed to get the forums alight.. The similarities between borrowing a dinghy are hugely different, the fact is we sail in an increasingly crowded waterway. Means continuing small acts of friendliness/ understanding will make boating whole lot less pleasant...

+1 - that's been the accepted etiquette for at least the last thirty years, where I sail. Even a forumite who has had his buoy damaged and sunk by visitors' inept mooring techniques has said he's still willing to let it be used while he's away, provided people don't damage it. There's generosity - but it also shows how strong the presumption is in this part of the world.

It does seem to be a regional thing, though. Usually when the subject comes up here, the "get orf my land" brigade are predominantly based on the West Coast of Scotland, and other less busy places. I've not sailed in Shropshire, but I'd guess it falls under that description? It makes sense that accepted behaviour would have evolved differently in the different situations. It's only with the advent of nationwide forums such as this that people have been brought together to disagree over it.

Pete
 
As far as I am concerned I will happily pick up a mooring I deem suitable in fair weather, if some one asks me to move I will be onboard to move off...

That assumes everyone has your view and remains onboard, I've returned to our mooring after a after tea sail to find a yacht on it and the owner gone ashore.

What we need is the universal sailor, everyone singing to the same song sheet.

Brian
 
That assumes everyone has your view and remains onboard, I've returned to our mooring after a after tea sail to find a yacht on it and the owner gone ashore.

What we need is the universal sailor, everyone singing to the same song sheet.

Brian

That's just not playing cricket. Bad form.
 
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