Lakesailor
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Which post are you commenting on? I'm confused.
Lost yachtsman rescued TWICE after using a ROAD ATLAS to navigate.
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V1701
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Thing is there's nothing whatsoever to stop him setting off again tomorrow, with his trusty road atlas, unreliable engine and total lack of relevant knowledge/experience short of locking him up for his own safety! What a tw@t!
Pye_End
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This is rather the point - it is his own safety. If you had a £10 note in your pocket it is up to you how you spend it. Your life is the same - it is yours to decide.
reginaldon
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No way! Read Shrimpy - he was an extremely resourceful and intelligent guy
RNLI
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Hi Kevo,
We saw your comments on this thread and are very concerned. We'd welcome more details about this incident so we can look into it. We'd appreciate it if you could get in touch with us - you're welcome to PM us.
Thank you.
Isla
RNLI
We saw your comments on this thread and are very concerned. We'd welcome more details about this incident so we can look into it. We'd appreciate it if you could get in touch with us - you're welcome to PM us.
Thank you.
Isla
RNLI
Sybarite
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Correction : their availability continues, day and night, 365 days a year. Not quite the same thing.
Sybarite
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Great : I would be very interested if you could explain how these two shouts incurred £7000 in costs. Surely you (the RNLI) mean that the enormous overhead costs of the RNLI were allocated to these two shouts.
KevO
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Isla, PM sent.
Sybarite
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It's imbeciles like that who will eventually get the attention of those who could impose mandatory licences on the rest of us....
It can be done responsibly by some:
http://www.creartisto.com/sansboussole/expedition_en.html
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Mark-1
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"To our knowledge, this experience even more basic than that of ‘Thor Heyerdals’ Kon-Tiki (who had instruments, radio and at the same time was scientific and sportive) in modern times has never been realised"
Without wishing to take anything away from them, Marvin Creamer did it, and more.
FistralG
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Oh! How times have changed. Years ago intrepid explorers, who set off into uncharted waters, were feted as heroes.
The report makes NO mention that Andy called for assistance from the RNLI himself and was in the first incident merely asking for directions.
In the second he had put his craft aground in order to effect repairs on the defective engine when someone else decided he needed outside assistance.
I hope they leave the poor guy alone to get on with his trip.
The report makes NO mention that Andy called for assistance from the RNLI himself and was in the first incident merely asking for directions.
In the second he had put his craft aground in order to effect repairs on the defective engine when someone else decided he needed outside assistance.
I hope they leave the poor guy alone to get on with his trip.
Flying Penguin
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Yes, but they are clearly prepared. They are very unlikely to appear on the radar of some junior MP wanting to make a name for themselves with a cry of "something must be done!". They are expeditionary explorers/adventurers, he is just a rescue waiting to happen.
It's not the lack of equipment, it's the complete disregard for any idea of planning and an ability to go about things in a way which maximises the "Daily Mail Screaming Headline Friendliness" of your activities....
robertj
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I do hope that the RNLI keeps its media statements to the basic facts.
The government will be in the wings gathering all information to gear up legislation so that not to keep us safe but to tax us even more.
The government will be in the wings gathering all information to gear up legislation so that not to keep us safe but to tax us even more.
Tommyrot
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Anyone familiar with Wells wouldn't be surprised at running aground there, with or without engine trouble.
Got beat to "Marvin Creamer"
Got beat to "Marvin Creamer"
Sybarite
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Thanks, I didn't know about him. However he did it in a 36' steel yacht. Their's was a homebuilt wood 22' outrigger canoe.
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Pye_End
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My mistake. I read his books, and many others as a youth, so perhaps muddling some text with somebody else. I recall somebody using an RAC atlas, which had the major lights well marked, but the skipper found a lot more marks one night so made a big detour, only to find when light that they could be ignored. Thought it was Shane, but perhaps not. One of these days I shall read them all again.
Agree he was quite a seafarer, and well worth reading.
fireball
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When I first started venturing into "big boat" sailing (22'!) I sorted out a laptop to be able to use as a chart plotter - connected my Etrex into it and had local charts on screen. A concerned colleague saw this and suggested that I should always make sure I've got a plot on a paper chart ... all this for the huge trek from Chichester to Cowes! Needless to say I don't plot my position on a chart for pottering around the Solent - I think I've done it once or twice as practice - but other than that it's pilotage.
I think the only time I've become disorientated in the solent was when a thunder & rain storm came over and obliterated our view - coupled with swirling winds we weren't entirely sure which way was home without checking the compass.
I would think that most ppl could roughly navigate with a road map & compass - so long as they stay reasonably well offshore away from underwater hazards...
RichardS
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.......and possibly the Old Bill as well!
As reported, I'm sure that this is theft. Time at Her Majesty's Pleasure might well be the consequence!
Richard
KevO
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The incident I described in my earlier post (#30?) obviously caused great concern to the organisation and they quite rightly wish to investigate it thoroughly. We have spoken directly.
I should make it clear that I never had any intention of causing any damage to their well-deserved public image and on honest reflection it would probably have been better if I had kept the matter to myself. A lesson I am sure many of us have to be reminded of from time to time.
I apologise unreservedly that, by recounting the story, I publicised a silly historical incident that should not reflect on the current organisation in any way.
I should make it clear that I never had any intention of causing any damage to their well-deserved public image and on honest reflection it would probably have been better if I had kept the matter to myself. A lesson I am sure many of us have to be reminded of from time to time.
I apologise unreservedly that, by recounting the story, I publicised a silly historical incident that should not reflect on the current organisation in any way.
