Looks like the red diesel question may be resolved

[Bobc]

Red will disappear, as there'll be no need for it, which also means that HMRC can save money not having people dipping tanks all over the place.

 

[mjcoon]

If red diesel is no longer rebated then marinas can stock any colour they like!

I thought the problem was taking tainted diesel across the Channel and its legality over there...

Mike.

 

[eddystone]

I found a more worrying announcement was that from next year petrol will be available with a higher bio-ethanol content which is fine and dandy but does it presage a higher content for diesel? My recent Beta engine says the warranty is voided if I use fuel with more than 7% bio

 

[Bobc]

One thing's for sure, it'll be a buyers market for motorboats if the fuel suddenly doubles in price.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

That will upset an awful lot of farmers and fishermen, as well as the boating community.

And an awful lot in the construction and quarrying sectors.

 

[rgarside]

I would not be surprised if this makes no difference to the EU position - I thought the EU legislation makes it illegal to use marked diesel for leisure use, so if it's still marked, it's still illegal.

 

[Seven Spades]

Really depends if you sail or motor.

I use about 40 lts a year. I moved to white diesel years ago after having a dose of the bug and I am convinced it was because of low turnover from a supplier.

You are much more likely to get bug with road diesel as it has a much higher bio content.

 

[smert]

Presumably fishing boats will be nipping over to France or Jersey to fill up now?

I can't see the thousands of boats not on the south coast 'nipping' over to France or Jersey

 

[fisherman]

Incidentally, fishermen get petrol at about the same price as diesel, after duty rebate, and VAT if registered, which most are regardless of turnover.

 

[Greg2]

One thing's for sure, it'll be a buyers market for motorboats if the fuel suddenly doubles in price.

Not really. Fuel isn’t the major expense for most mobo owners and a bit more cost on fuel won’t deter people. It hasn’t in the EU, where red has been unavailable for leisure use for a long time.

 

[Star-Lord]

LOL you would have thought with Brexit that red diesel would have been left alone.

 

[dunedin]

I found a more worrying announcement was that from next year petrol will be available with a higher bio-ethanol content which is fine and dandy but does it presage a higher content for diesel? My recent Beta engine says the warranty is voided if I use fuel with more than 7% bio

There are already moves to increase the bio content of diesel - see the various threads on this topic after the bio content was increased in red diesel coming out of the Grangemouth refineries in the autumn, with complaints from farmers about problems arising (though whether these were actually caused by the change to bio content is not yet clear). Refueller amongst others was very informative on the topic.

 

[JumbleDuck]

LOL you would have thought with Brexit that red diesel would have been left alone.

Red diesel is illegal in the EU, regardless of where it was bought and whether it was legal there. Try bringing back a packet of marijuana from Amsterdam and arguing that is must be legal because you have a receipt ...

 

[Star-Lord]

Red diesel is illegal in the EU, regardless of where it was bought and whether it was legal there. Try bringing back a packet of marijuana from Amsterdam and arguing that is must be legal because you have a receipt ...

Yeah but... We (not me) voted to leave the EU!

 

[Graham376]

You are much more likely to get bug with road diesel as it has a much higher bio content.

So why do we rarely hear of bug problems over here, where everyone is using road diesel?

 

[Old Harry]

I found a more worrying announcement was that from next year petrol will be available with a higher bio-ethanol content which is fine and dandy but does it presage a higher content for diesel? My recent Beta engine says the warranty is voided if I use fuel with more than 7% bio

Are Beta engines sold on the Contentment, if so how do they cope with bio diesel

 

[[70521]]

You are much more likely to get bug with road diesel as it has a much higher bio content.

Far higher bio content in Europe and no more of an issue there than it is here.

 

[Graham376]

Are Beta engines sold on the Contentment, if so how do they cope with bio diesel

I've come across a few boats with Beta engines installed over here and they perform just as well as the tens of thousands of other engines of various makes throughout Europe, which don't have any problem running on road fuel.

 

[lw395]

So why do we rarely hear of bug problems over here, where everyone is using road diesel?

Indeed.
And when did you last hear of a bug problem in a car?

 

[DownWest]

Re the E10 petrol, there is a site on the net, E10.fr where you can check if your old car is suitable. Mrs. DW loves her old Twingo and it says that E10 is not suitable for it, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. What the site does say, is E10 is not suitable for outboard engines and garden equipement. One of our local s/markets has a 95 lead free pump without bio. so I use that for the little engines.