Look what they have done to the Origo

[Robin]

The advantage on my boat is a shot gas system which the surveyor condemmed. New origo.... £180 including gimbal kit. New gas regulator, remote solenoid alarm, twin hob, hoses, pipes, bubble tester, professional installation and safety test.... well probably a grand? I had an origo on the last boat. It was fine. Even if I did prefer a kettle for tea when I had shore power. Apparently they're even better with bio ethanol instead of meths.

OK, understood, but the gas system you describe seems like it is specced for 'coded' charter boat use. Septics here are paranoid about using gas (propane) but their usual opt out is to go electric, via a big inverter or generator, or eat ashore.

 

[yachtorion]

the gas system you describe seems like it is specced for 'coded' charter boat use..

I'd say there is a reason that stuff is in the code. But if we knock off the alarm and bubble tester... we're still talking a pretty big cost differential.

 

[Robin]

I'd say there is a reason that stuff is in the code. But if we knock off the alarm and bubble tester... we're still talking a pretty big cost differential.

OK, life is a compromise on boats! Are alcohol stoves allowed on coded boats I wonder? A better price comparison might be with a gimbaled gaz type stove running on canisters or even the one I saw with a 907 gaz cylinder slung beneath

 

[prv]

Are alcohol stoves allowed on coded boats I wonder?

Yes, I think so, but rarely seen because coded boats are generally larger and newer and the Origo's natural habitat is small boats and manky old ones.

Pete

 

[andygc]

My last such alcohol stove was bck around 1970 and it frit me silly when the sun went in one day and I saw the blue flames flickering on the plywood work top by the stove.

All you needed to do was trickle a little water on the flames to put them out but the obvious question is why had you poured alcohol onto your work top? I won't start another "Origo is best" war, there's enough of those here already. The Origo suits some people just fine. There's some it doesn't.

 

[Robin]

All you needed to do was trickle a little water on the flames to put them out but the obvious question is why had you poured alcohol onto your work top? I won't start another "Origo is best" war, there's enough of those here already. The Origo suits some people just fine. There's some it doesn't.

water onto a spirit fire? Damp rag did the trick I think, (it was 45 years ago not yesterday). And I have no care whatever as to who uses or chooses what, that is called personal choice and this is a discussion not an instruction .

 

[graham]

Yes you can put out a meths fire with water.sprinkle it on as too much water can wash the fire to a new location.

You have to be very careless to have a meths fire in the first place.

 

[Robin]

Yes you can put out a meths fire with water.sprinkle it on as too much water can wash the fire to a new location.

You have to be very careless to have a meths fire in the first place.

I sure would as we have none on board.

 

[Floyd Raser]

it has gone from this

to this

and the double now looks like this

I like it.

Another name though: Dometic. Does anyone know the history of these things? Which came first, Electrolux or Origo?

They last for ever so represent a good investment. Made from bashed plate, they are very simple but the tooling must be getting a bit blunt by now so if you're making new dies and forms, you may as well redesign.

 

[aslabend]

Has anyone played with the new model?
I'm presuming it's the same dimensions as the old style?
Are the upright posts for the pan holders round (so you can swivel the holders to hold smaller/larger pans) or squared so that it is a set size?
I'm also presuming that the burners inside are the same as the old ones (why would you change that?).

If you can adjust the holders and the burners are the same the only possible problem with the new stove is it looks as if you'll have to fork out for a specific gimble kit
as it would seem tricky to mount a home made one as I did easily with the older model.

 

[Bru]

Another name though: Dometic. Does anyone know the history of these things? Which came first, Electrolux or Origo? .

This is how the story apparently goes, I haven't checked all the details so take it as apocryphal for now ...

The Origo was developed by an individual (a Swede ISTR but I may be wrong) who started the business from scratch

He sold the successful business to Electrolux

Electrolux were taken over by Dometic

Somewhere down the line, either Electrolux or Dometic reneged on the original sales deal, or it may have been that the takeover of Electrolux by Dometic meant the deal lapsed, or it may simply have been that any restriction on him doing so simply lapsed (stories vary) and the original developer restarted production of the design under the Cookmate brand name

The original designer then did it again and sold Cookmate to Contoure

Contoure appear to have ceased production of the Cookmate range

 

[ronsurf]

Part way through that story I was hoping the original designer had sold the design back to Dometic again.

I quite like the new ones. They look very cheerful . But they last forever so hopefully it'll be a while before mine needs replacing.

 

[yachtorion]

My shiny new old-style Origo 3000 arrived today - and what a thing of beauty it is

And I paid less than I paid for the 1500 on my old boat. \o/

If only for that reason I think the new model is good news!

 

[andygc]

Contoure International still exists, it's a small company in Sarasota, Florida. It still sells Cookmate cookers, mostly in the USA, but also in the UK. Dometic never, as far as I can make out, stopped producing the Origo. Origo 3000 = Cookmate 3100. They take the same burners. The Origo is now being marketed in the UK by Waeco - which is now a subsidiary of Dometic. Waeco sells them directly on Amazon. There seem to be plenty of the old version at present.

Source: a few simple Google searches.

 

[Bru]

Contoure International still exists, it's a small company in Sarasota, Florida. It still sells Cookmate cookers, mostly in the USA, but also in the UK. Dometic never, as far as I can make out, stopped producing the Origo. Origo 3000 = Cookmate 3100. They take the same burners. The Origo is now being marketed in the UK by Waeco - which is now a subsidiary of Dometic. Waeco sells them directly on Amazon. There seem to be plenty of the old version at present.

Source: a few simple Google searches.

I don't know about in the US but the Cookmate range, whilst still advertised by some dealers, hasn't actually been available since last year (although there may be some old stock kicking around I suppose)

Corret, Dometic has never ceased production of the Origo (never said they had!)

Waeco is simply a brand name of Dometic now. The Cookmate range is still branded Dometic. Their "Waeco" portal on Amazon sells the entire Dometic range of roducts but it's simply that, a portal.

 

[JumbleDuck]

I'm still looking for an Origo 6000 (two burner plus stove) and would love to hear from any who has one going spare.

 

[yachtorion]

I'm still looking for an Origo 6000 (two burner plus stove) and would love to hear from any who has one going spare.

I think they're still available new but very expensive and how how much longer for... seem to be rare as hen's teeth second hand. I'd snap one up the second I saw it.

 

[ex-Gladys]

I don't get how adding another burner in a stainless case adds nearly £800 to the price....

 

[Bru]

I don't get how adding another burner in a stainless case adds nearly £800 to the price....

Me neither

It's not just a rare beast anyway, it's a mythical beast.

Nigh on six years ago when I bought the stove for Brigantia (I bought a Cookmate in the end) I enquired about the Origo 6000 (not knowing the price at that stage) at the chandlers. They hadn't even heard of it but got on to their distributors. They had heard of it but hadn't got any in stock and contacted Electrolux / Dometic who eventually replied that it was not available and they couldn't give a lead time

I suspect it's been out of production for a good few years and the handful of chandlers still advertising it either have one gathering dust in their stock room or more likely, simply never removed it from their web site shop front

If I;d been able to get one for a reasonable price I'd have had one but even if they had been available the list price was silly money!

 

[mikeinkwazi]

Our pans are mostly round but also significantly bigger diameter than would easily fit on that and we always when cook when out at sea and not just when in harbour.

I see no advantage over a properly designed and installed gas stove, preferably with oven and grill. Alcohol stoves seem like a solution seeking a problem to me. Maybe it is because I'm bigger boat centric these days. My last such alcohol stove was bck around 1970 and it frit me silly when the sun went in one day and I saw the blue flames flickering on the plywood work top by the stove. That, coupled with it taking a lifetime to boil a kettle saw it consigned to the scrap bin just as soon as I could find a proper jobbie to fit.

I agree, plus it makes a lot of Co. My count being 105ppm before I quit using it! By the way, the gas stove gets no reaction from the Co alarm