Limfjord transit?

[Krusty]

I wonder if a yacht of 1.9m draft and 13.5m 'air-draft' can make the transit of Limfjord from Kattegat to North Sea.
If so, is the ICC with CEVNI endorsement a requirement?
Does anyone out there know?

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[pandroid]

I think the answer to the first is yes (all the bridges lift, and I think the draft is OK), and the answer to the second is definitely no.

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[Krusty]

Many thanks, Pandroid. I plan to cruise the Danish islands in June/July and cut through Jutland to head for Stavanger - Bergen - Shetland: better than thrashing due West through Skagerrak I think! Regards.
K.

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[roger]

Theres a good current going SW along the Norwegian coast which is useful though it gets rough outside Kristiansand in SW winds.
The South coast of Norway as far as Lindesnes is delightful - try Blindleiae (sic) between Lilesand and Kristiansand.
The coast from Lindesnes to Jaerens Rev is open and not a place to be in rough weather. There are a number of good places to stop including Farsund, Egersund and Sirevag. Theres a north bound current here to if you can find it.
The marina at Tnanger has an excellent hotel/restaurant "hummer" with a tank of the things.
Stavanger Is a good stop with an excellent chandlers.
Do try to make Lissfjord and the pulpit rock. This will give you a good taste of the fjord region you are otherwise going to miss.
Have fun

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[Krusty]

Roger, thanks for the info: I intend to visit SE Norway and Oslo before Danish islands. Any advice on costs, (esp. food!) in Sweden & Denmark? I know Norway is expensive.
Regards, K.

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[roger]

Norway & Sweden

First the commercial. Ray Glaister and I wrote the Cruising Association Guide to Norway and we think its quite good. Theres also a companion one to Sweden and Denmark ( I think)
end of commercial
You must have the 1.50000 local charts for the areas you are going to visit issued by the host country. The inshore passages are inticate and the rocks are hard. the best bit of advice I ever got was "Keep your finger on the chart all the time". Its pilotage not navigation = its not difficult but it is intricate. The skerries are very beautiful and not to be missed.
For Denmark there's KOMMA a port guide. For Sweden get the free Kystguiden at mos marinas - free. For Norway you have to pay.
In Norway and Sweden know your air draft - there are powerlines.
Main channels usually are indicated onthe charts by sector lighthouses.
Food. Most peoples views of Norway and Sweden are gained from the prices of alchohol in bars. The inhabitants dont often visit bars. For cheap protien its fish, fresh, smoked or pickled and all rather nice. Norwegian cheese is boring except for Gjetost (goat cheese). Its what every Norwegian school child has on its sandwiches - buy a chees plane.
Bread is good - beware sweet bread in Sweden. Milk products abound. We find the soured milk (Kefir etc.) excellent on breakfast cereals. Coffe is easy to get and good. Take your own tea. Beer from supermarkets is affordable but fairly tasteless. Wine from the state monopoly is pricey but may come within your budget £5 plus/bott. Spirit prices are good for a laugh. Dont smuggle in booze - it can prove very expensive. Scandinavians eat a lot of pizzas. They are a cheapish way of eating out. Also look for the "Dagens Rett" daily dish. Particularly in Sweden this gives a good meal at a reasonable price.
In Oslo visit the Viking Ships, the Vigeland Sculpture park and the Munch museum
Have fun.

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[pandroid]

Re: Norway & Sweden

And for the non-commercial, there's some stuff, mainly on Denmark and Sweden (including reviews of available material, and loads of pictures) on our website <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.kissen.co.uk>here</A>. I also wrote a long article for the HROA on the Practicalities of sailing in Denmark and Sweden which I can send you a copy of if you PM me.

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[jamesjermain]

I am told the Limfjord is very beautiful in parts and worth doing for its own sake but...

I did a passage from Marstrand to the Solent last year and on the original passage plan, the Limfjord was written in as a possible alternative if the weather was bad 'over the top'. However, our skipper, very experienced in these waters, warned that the exit from the Limfjord at Thyboron is quite impossible with any sort of an onshore westerly blowing, particularly on the ebb. You could be holed up there for days while the passage through the Skagerrak even if rough, is at least safe.

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[Luanda]

I have lived here and sailed for 30 years and can give a few comments to what has been written.
First, don't be afraid about exiting from Limfjord into the N sea. At least in summer, you rarely get long periods of westerlies. There will be no trouble about transiting the fjord, but keep to the channel. Especially when approaching Aalborg, don't go in a straight line from one spar to the next, but follow the curve that the channel takes. But it is all soft mud, so there is only an embarrasment in running aground.
Alcohol in Sweden. I always take 7-10 litres of spirits, and have never yet met a customs officer. And they are in the EU now. The comment about their beer was correct, it is ver weak, but stock up in a German or Danish supermarket, far cheaper and much stronger. And you'll be popular when you give it to Swedish guests. Swedish shops are cheap - food, that is, and they're open 7 days a week. I'm off there again in June, sailing around to Gotland. Let me know if there is any help I can give you. The Swedish, Norwegian and Danish Seasports charts are excellent and not too expensive. For £70 or thereabouts you can get them on CD, and theoretically you can vonnect them up to GPS, and have your position indicated, though I haven't been able to get it to work.


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[ponapay]

Agree with most posts

but why not stay longer. There are good marinas for over wintering and there is a lot more to see once you get east of the Kattegat.

I have spent the last five years (nearly six now) in the Kattegat and Baltic. Everyone we have met has been helpful and welcoming, especially the Alanders and Finns.

As to passage of Limfjord - its no problem at all - just keep to the channels in the shallow bits (get the local charts).

Ega Marina (10 ks N of Aarhus) is excellent for over wintering, and has a bus to the airport (45 mins away, and with Ryan Air quite cheap) which leaves from 500 yards from the marina entrance.

pm me if you want a chat.

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[Krusty]

Re: Agree with most posts

Great responses to my queries: I hope they prove useful to others too. My thanks to all. I plan to use Limfjord: to explore, not just as a short-cut. If the exit west looks worse than Orkney's Hoy Sound on the ebb I'm prepared to wait for a weather window and explore Danish lager. I have three months!

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