LIfting the anchor singlehanded.

[Poignard]

My whole point, Parsifal, is that I described how I deal with tight or busy anchorages or when strong winds or tides make a rapid & controlled departure essential. I do carry a heavy angel for reducing swing and managing the chain catenary, but I would never use it in the manner you suggest. Too much hassle & no benefit in my view. You think otherwise - fine, so it goes & I'm cool with that.

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The original poster asked for advice.

You gave him your advice.

I gave him mine.

He is free to choose whichever, if either, he likes.

I do not criticise your advice , even though I think it is not the best in the circumstances.

Why then do you feel it necessary to criticise mine, given in good faith?

 

[Searush]

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The original poster asked for advice.

You gave him your advice.

I gave him mine.

He is free to choose whichever, if either, he likes.

I do not criticise your advice , even though I think it is not the best in the circumstances.

Why then do you feel it necessary to criticise mine, given in good faith?

I agree with your comment on the OP's choice. I'm just surprised that the fact that I & some others don't like your technique should upset you! It works for you - great. I see no benefit for me & explained why.

Incidentally, if you reread my post, I did not criticise you, I simply pointed out why I would not take those actions. If you can't take opinions that differ from yours - beware of internet forums! Chill & enjoy the variety of ideas on here. Some will suit you, some won't - please feel free to express your opinion, but be aware that not everyone will share it!

 

[Poignard]

I agree with your comment on the OP's choice. I'm just surprised that the fact that I & some others don't like your technique should upset you! It works for you - great. I see no benefit for me & explained why.

Incidentally, if you reread my post, I did not criticise you, I simply pointed out why I would not take those actions. If you can't take opinions that differ from yours - beware of internet forums! Chill & enjoy the variety of ideas on here. Some will suit you, some won't - please feel free to express your opinion, but be aware that not everyone will share it! [/QUOTE

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You are absolutely right about tolerating the opinions of others on these forums. It is something I like to think I do but now and then I run up against someone whose smug and patronising manner irritates me more than most.

I confess I do find it difficult not to react to such people. Just as I would to someone met in the real world to whom I took an immediate and instinctive dislike.

I really must make an effort to correct this failing; although without it life would be very lacking in zest.

 

[Searush]

last response to Parsifal

but now and then I run up against someone whose smug and patronising manner irritates me more than most.

After falsely accusing me of criticising you, you have now chosen to resort to personal insults. So it goes. It usually means one has lost the actual argument.

You don't seem to be thinking your case through very clearly. Would you like to have a little lie down & think it out again when you have calmed down?

Chill a bit my son, (there, now I HAVE patronised you) I have already agreed to disagree, there is no shame in it. I shall not bother to respond again on this thread, you may do as you wish. It might just be worth putting me on ignore to protect your blood pressure. Ciao

 

[jonjo]

Have I misread something here.

Do people motor out of an anchorage with the anchor dangling just above the seabed?

Are you not worried about the possibility of hooking another boat's ground tackle or other seabed detritus?

 

[Searush]

Have I misread something here.

Do people motor out of an anchorage with the anchor dangling just above the seabed?

Are you not worried about the possibility of hooking another boat's ground tackle or other seabed detritus?

I wasn't going to come back to this, but that's a sensible question.

The answer is no, you heave it well clear of the sea bed, 3-4 good pulls will get you about 10' clear. If you have time, you can pull it up to the stemhead, but we are talking tight spots/ strong tides/winds etc. You will know from the chart what the risk of it catching is. I have never caught the dangler yet. Do make sure you go behind other craft & not over their anchor chains (DOH!) It allows you to sail or motor out of very tight spots even when singlehanded.

 

[jonjo]

The answer is no, you heave it well clear of the sea bed, 3-4 good pulls will get you about 10' clear.

OK I must consider this option in future. With a plumb bow I don't have the option of leaving the anchor just clear of the water because it swings and chips the bow gel coat.

 

[Searush]

Just don't move quickly then, it will drag in the water a bit, but at slow speeds (1-2kts) it is fine - and anyway, how quickly do you want to pass thro' a busy mooring? - if you're not on a jetski.

I first figured out the technique when upping sticks started rapidly going wrong once & I just had to leave the anchor dangling while I went back to the cockpit to avoid falling back on another boat. It made sense to get into clear water to sort it all out. And, in my review of the incident (= lessons learned?) I thought "I must remember that - it worked quite well & no-one spotted that I was almost in trouble for a minute."

It is now a common part of my repertoire.

 

[Scotty_Tradewind]

My friend has fitted an electric windlass on his Nic' 38..... he says....
The electric windlass is terrific. If you buy one make sure it has a rope drum as well as the gipsy. I usually pick up buoys with no tail by feeding warp through the metal eye on the buoy doing this opposite the cockpit where the freeboard is lowest and there are gates in the guardwires, then letting the boat fall back with the tide/wind. We did this twice recently in F8. To get a second warp through for safety once we were lying to the buoy proved impossible; the boat was too far back from the buoy and the whole thing too heavy in that wind. I just put the mooring warp round the rope drum, pulled the boat forward and lifted the buoy up to deck level with the windlass. Easy to feed the second rope through with no frantic leaning and stretching over the bow.

Also see his info' on cables he used ....on posting on PBO forum

 

[Refueler]

Have I misread something here.

Do people motor out of an anchorage with the anchor dangling just above the seabed?

Are you not worried about the possibility of hooking another boat's ground tackle or other seabed detritus?

like Searush - I too like to dangle the metal over while clearing the scene. It cleans off all the gunge that otherwise would get all over deck ... it means I'm only away from cockpit for short period when boat is free to move ...

I usually have my anchor only a foot or so under water ... generally I pull it up till I can see it in the water or if too cloudy ... shank appears - I then slack back a foot or so.