Lifting dinghy on board using a spare halyard.

[GHA]

I do similar using a halyard through a block which gets pulled outboard with short line through the outboard end of the pole. 4 way bridle. Works an absolute treat, really handy pulling up the dingy every night.
Using the painter as a bridle would mean nowhere to tie off the dingy while you attach/detach the bridle.

 

[[70521]]

Why not just say what you really mean? And why attack me and not Sandy?

The problem is with forums is we can only respond about the text before us.

I replied with a statement of fact. Others clear use the same method. Unknown to any of us, apart from the OP, there was a reason for the question. As one of my old professors would say, "context dear boy context." And then everybody gets huffy... Chill, relax and pour a dram at the appropriate time (its 0815Z here and way too early for me).

I hope the OP finds a workable solution and can enjoy his time on the water.

 

[TernVI]

Using halyards to lift the dinghy is much more work. It is amazing how inefficient things turn out to be.
If I struggled to lift my dinghy over the rail, my first thoughts would be a lighter dinghy.
Our dinghy is quite easy to lift, much of it is not about the weight, it's whether the handles are in the right place.
Also we have those naff little wheels which are alleged to let the genoa cross the guard wire. They help much more with the dinghy than they do with the genoa.

I recently watched someone lift their dinghy aboard, they seemed to have a neat way of putting the dinghy on its side,lifting the bow, clipping it to something and then lifting the stern. Looked quick and easy, maybe worth looking into?

 

[Poignard]

Using halyards to lift the dinghy is much more work. It is amazing how inefficient things turn out to be.
If I struggled to lift my dinghy over the rail, my first thoughts would be a lighter dinghy.
Our dinghy is quite easy to lift, much of it is not about the weight, it's whether the handles are in the right place.
Also we have those naff little wheels which are alleged to let the genoa cross the guard wire. They help much more with the dinghy than they do with the genoa.

I recently watched someone lift their dinghy aboard, they seemed to have a neat way of putting the dinghy on its side,lifting the bow, clipping it to something and then lifting the stern. Looked quick and easy, maybe worth looking into?

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Thanks for that, I am obviously going about this the wrong way,

A few questions for you; if you wouldn't mind answering them:

1. Do you have a congenital deformation of the spine?​

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2. Have you not long ago had major surgery carried out on your lower vertebrae?​

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3. Are you 80 years old?​

 

[TC Tuckton]

I do similar using a halyard through a block which gets pulled outboard with short line through the outboard end of the pole. 4 way bridle. Works an absolute treat, really handy pulling up the dingy every night.
Using the painter as a bridle would mean nowhere to tie off the dingy while you attach/detach the bridle.

That looks like a Tinker Tramp. I don't have a outboard and haul mine up with the main halyard attached to the transom.
I leave it hanging vertically so that I can (1) dry it and (2) deflate it in a way that stops the aft (internal) chambers folding in on themselves. It is relatively simple to roll the the Tramp up on the fore hatch of a Centaur. The Tramp lives on a quarterberth and I use the main halyard to help getting it to the main hatch and inside. If I had an outboard I would find a way of getting it off first.
TC (Age 68 with a back ten years older...)

 

[TernVI]

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Thanks for that, I am obviously going about this the wrong way,

A few questions for you; if you wouldn't mind answering them:

1. Do you have a congenital deformation of the spine?​

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2. Have you not long ago had major surgery carried out on your lower vertebrae?​

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3. Are you 80 years old?​

You seem to be a rude old git who doesn't deserve or actually want any input.

 

[Poignard]

You seem to be a rude old git who doesn't deserve or actually want any input.

An answer to the question I asked in Post #1 was all the input I wanted, not your fatuous opinions.

 

[johnalison]

You seem to be a rude old git who doesn't deserve or actually want any input.

That seems unnecessarily personal. When I read the original post, my first thought was that lifting such a small dinghy shouldn't need a hoist, but I soon came to the assumption that there may be some reason why lifting a dinghy might be a problem. I can understand his sensitivity on the matter, but it would have been helpful to the rest of us if he had just put a word or two in to account for the special request.

 

[rogerthebodger]

You seem to be a rude old git who doesn't deserve or actually want any input.

I'm normally called the rude old git or old fart

To me it's irrelevant why the OP asked for info and in my view we all should use out intelligence to make like easy for ourselves.

Wee have winches and engines on our boats to make life easy so why not use a halyard to lift a dinghy on board. I do and even use a block on my boom to lift stores onboard.

 

[Poignard]

That seems unnecessarily personal. When I read the original post, my first thought was that lifting such a small dinghy shouldn't need a hoist, but I soon came to the assumption that there may be some reason why lifting a dinghy might be a problem. I can understand his sensitivity on the matter, but it would have been helpful to the rest of us if he had just put a word or two in to account for the special request.

The question I asked was clear, simple and unambiguous. There was no need for anyone to know any more information than that given.

That is the trouble with this forum, sometimes. It's like asking directions to somewhere and being asked why you want to go there.

In fact it's worse than that, you'll be told you have no right going there!

 

[TernVI]

The question I asked was clear, simple and unambiguous. There was no need for anyone to know any more information than that given.

That is the trouble with this forum, sometimes. It's like asking directions to somewhere and being asked why you want to go there.

In fact it's worse than that, you'll be told you have no right going there!

Maybe you should give up sailing before you burden the NHS any further. It doesn't seem to bring you any happiness.

All my post did was point out some observations which I thought might be of interest to others in the general discussion.

 

[rogerthebodger]

Maybe you should give up sailing before you burden the NHS any further. It doesn't seem to bring you any happiness.

Here again we have breaches of the terms and conditions namly rules

4.3 Do not post rude or abusive messages - including personal attacks on other Users,

4.4 Do not post defamatory or other insulting or inappropriate content (see clause 4.12).

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All my post did was point out some observations which I thought might be of interest to others in the general discussion.

Insults are NOT observations and are of NO interest to others in the general discussion.

This just show you lack of respect for others

You would not like personal attacks on you character would you.

Stick to the subject of the post and not attack others its unbecoming behavior.

 

[Poignard]

Maybe you should give up sailing before you burden the NHS any further. It doesn't seem to bring you any happiness.

All my post did was point out some observations which I thought might be of interest to others in the general discussion.

NHS? No thanks, life is too short to waste in a queue for treatment.

 

[rogerthebodger]

NHS? No thanks, life is too short to waste in a queue for treatment.

The NHS is much better than out NHS which is why I have private health care and use private hospitals.

I don't have any wait for treatment.

 

[greeny]

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What a particularly stupid and totally unnecessary post.

I have lifted the dinghy on board without any aid at all during the 23 years I have owned it.

Has it not occurred to you that there might now be a good reason ( a medical reason) for my now wishing to make the process a little easier on myself?

Or do you think I ask questions on a forum aimed at the "practical boatowner" for no reason?

It is always the same on these forums. One asks a reasonable question, get some sensible and helpful replies and then some clown wades in with a piffling statement that is of no use practical use whatsoever.

It is hardly any wonder that newcomers are often deterred from posting here.

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[GHA]

Using halyards to lift the dinghy is much more work.

Then you're doing something wrong, it's simple and won't even bring on a bead of sweat in the tropics. Worth havong another play to work out a method which works.

 

[geem]

We Lift our dinghy with the rope drum on the windlass. We use the spinnaker halyard. The dinghy is a 3.5m nesting hard dinghy with a 15hp engine. I have a large Avon fender that I tie to the lifting bridle so as the dinghy rises up the side of the yacht, the fender comes with it. I can lift it on my own using a wireless remote for the windlass.

 

[TernVI]

Then you're doing something wrong, it's simple and won't even bring on a bead of sweat in the tropics. Worth havong another play to work out a method which works.

The amount of useful work is roughly the same Weight x height of deck, the amount of actual work you have to put in is the useful work divided by the efficiency.
Manual winches and simple tackles are surprisingly inefficient.
Of course the work you put in may be spread over a long period of faffing around, so the power needed is less!

 

[Poignard]

My weight on one end of the halyard = 196 lbs . Weight of dinghy on the other end = 56lbs.

Result: the dinghy comes up as I go down.

 

[ashtead]

Seems to me a lot of over complication -just winch up on your line of choice but it’s just much simpler with a power winch even without the O/B attached . Ideally you create a 3 point rig if time permits but it’s not essential if you just want a small inflatable on foredeck.