Lifting dinghy on board using a spare halyard.

[Poignard]

I am going to start lifting my inflatable 2.3m dinghy onto the coachroof using a spare halyard attached to a bridle which will be attached to the painter eye and to one or more folding padeyes bolted to the plywood transom.

Question:

Which would be better: a single padeye in the centre of the transom with a 2-legged bridle, or two padeyes on the transom and a 3-legged bridle?

 

[Wansworth]

Will you expect it to be stowed upside down once on deck

 

[Poignard]

Will you expect it to be stowed upside down once on deck

Sorry, I should have made it clear that the dinghy will be deflated and stowed in its valise on top of the coachroof.

The yacht is 8.6m LOA so there is no room to carry an inflated dinghy even if I wished to.

 

[rogerthebodger]

My dingy has 2 U bolts at the stern but my dingy id upright on deck which saves me having to turn the dingy over.

My previous was stowed upside down by was a pig the launch and recover.

I also use my spinnaker pole to lift without banging the boat topsides and to swing the dingy to the center of the deck ahead of the mast.

My dingy is a rigid.

Are you going to like it inflated then deflated and stow for deflate in the water then lift on deck

 

[Spirit (of Glenans)]

It will certainly be necessary to lift it horizontally, rather than by the bow, as you don't want the prop hitting the deck every time. Perhaps the bridle should be balanced so as to lift the stern higher than the bow. I think a single padeye would do, as you just want to lift it and immediately land it on deck. A little rolling from side to side is of no consequence.
I would use a 6-1 purchase attached to the end of the (clutched) halyard and hauled manually, as this is also one of the most useful tools for retrieving an MOB, and the practice you would get, lifting your tender, would sharpen your skills in the unlikely event.....

 

[RupertW]

We are a bigger boat so carry the tender on the foredeck upside down. For that reason I have the bridle - just an old piece of rope with a loop in the middle - permanently tied to just two points, one side of the transom and the bow. That what it comes up sideways so easily come up the hull and over the rails. We take everything out first including the engine.

If you want it come up the right way up then 3 point needed.

 

[[70521]]

I just haul mine onboard by the painter.

 

[pvb]

I just haul mine onboard by the painter.

Yes, a 2.3m inflatable shouldn't be too much of a handful to need a halyard.

 

[[3889]]

I used to lift my dink (13 kg) using the spinny pole uphaul. Then the uphaul sheave in the mast bust. Make sure the lifting line/ tackle is up to the job. Now use spinny halyard which does the business...so far.

 

[Poignard]

Yes, a 2.3m inflatable shouldn't be too much of a handful to need a halyard.

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What a particularly stupid and totally unnecessary post.

I have lifted the dinghy on board without any aid at all during the 23 years I have owned it.

Has it not occurred to you that there might now be a good reason ( a medical reason) for my now wishing to make the process a little easier on myself?

Or do you think I ask questions on a forum aimed at the "practical boatowner" for no reason?

It is always the same on these forums. One asks a reasonable question, get some sensible and helpful replies and then some clown wades in with a piffling statement that is of no use practical use whatsoever.

It is hardly any wonder that newcomers are often deterred from posting here.

 

[pvb]

What a particularly stupid and totally unnecessary post.

I have lifted the dinghy on board without any aid at all during the 23 years I have owned it.

Has it not occurred to you that there might now be a good reason ( a medical reason) for my now wishing to make the process a little easier on myself?

Or do you think I ask questions on a forum aimed at the "practical boatowner" for no reason?

It is always the same on these forums. One asks a reasonable question, get some sensible and helpful replies and then some clown wades in with a piffling statement that is of no use practical use whatsoever.

It is hardly any wonder that newcomers are often deterred from posting here.

Why not just say what you really mean? And why attack me and not Sandy?

 

[Poignard]

Why not just say what you really mean? And why attack me and not Sandy?

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You had some difficulty understanding what I meant when I wrote this did you?

"I am going to start lifting my inflatable 2.3m dinghy onto the coachroof using a spare halyard attached to a bridle which will be attached to the painter eye and to one or more folding padeyes bolted to the plywood transom.​

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Question:​

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Which would be better: a single padeye in the centre of the transom with a 2-legged bridle, or two padeyes on the transom and a 3-legged bridle? "​

It seemed perfectly clear to me and, apparently, to those who have kindly taken the trouble to answer the question I actually asked.

 

[pvb]

Thread drift, innit?

 

[RupertW]

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You had some difficulty understanding what I meant when I wrote this did you?

"I am going to start lifting my inflatable 2.3m dinghy onto the coachroof using a spare halyard attached to a bridle which will be attached to the painter eye and to one or more folding padeyes bolted to the plywood transom.​

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Question:​

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Which would be better: a single padeye in the centre of the transom with a 2-legged bridle, or two padeyes on the transom and a 3-legged bridle? "​

It seemed perfectly clear to me and, apparently, to those who have kindly taken the trouble to answer the question I actually asked.

Gosh you seem a very fussy and irritable person.

 

[Poignard]

Gosh you seem a very fussy and irritable person.

Do I ? It's probably that I don't suffer fools gladly.

 

[pvb]

Do I ? It's probably that I don't suffer fools gladly.

I don't either!

 

[Talulah]

I lift the dinghy using the spinnaker halyard attached to the painter.
Once the dinghy is vertical (but the rear is not yet clear of the water and the bow is well above the guardwires) I grab one of the dinghy handles and haul it onboard. The dinghy handles are towards the rear. So in affect the Spinnaker halyard is taking half the weight.

 

[ashtead]

Lifting any dinghy using the spiny halyard or main halyard either in flayed or deflated using a powered winch is a doodle. If the Op doesn’t have a powered winch then you might in invested in a Millie power handle or such like . If inflated just winch upright on to foredeck and swing around to where required to deflated. Extract all air using battery deflator and once in bag lift up by winch and lower into stern lazarette locker.

 

[prv]

I do exactly this, using the spinnaker halyard to lift the dinghy to and from the foredeck where I inflate and deflate it. I lift it with the outboard fitted, which I find much easier and safer (for the engine) than trying to lift it separately and clamp it on in the water.

I use a long three-legged bridle, and I can’t see a two-legged one being a good idea. You’d end up lowering the dinghy down sideways, it‘s never going to balance. Not to mention the engine would be in the way.

The bridle has a small carbine hook on the end of each leg; the bow one hooks onto the painter ring, and the stern ones to thin Dyneema (because it’s what I had to hand; any cord would do) grommets spliced through small holes near the top of the transom. The three legs are spliced together at a stainless ring which the halyard clips to. Originally I used to unclip the bridle from the boat and leave it hanging on the halyard, but it was a bit of a wet job refitting the bow end before lifting and I realised there was no point in removing it. Now it stays attached full time and just lies in the bottom of the boat out of the way.

The legs of the bridle are not equal length - if you make them that way, the stern will hang lower. Dramatically so if you lift with the engine fitted. I found the balance point of the boat and engine by putting it across the back of a garden bench, nudging it forward or aft until it more or less balanced. The balance point is quite near the stern, and I made the bridle so that the lifting ring is above that balance point. The dinghy lifts completely flat and stable, with engine and oars fitted and fuel can, pump and anchor bag in the bow. I lifted it once without the engine (can’t remember why now) and it hung a little bow-down but not excessively so.

A halyard winch is needed to lift it (I suppose I could probably do it by hand if I really had to, but it would be a heavier pull than is normal on a yacht) but the work on the handle is not difficult - less than sheeting in the jib in a breeze. A power winch is not required, at least for my AX4, Suzuki 2.2, normal boat gear and a bit of water in the bottom. I can do the whole operation (lift or lower) on my own but it’s a bit inelegant - another hand to work the winch while I guide the boat makes for a smooth and seamanlike evolution.

The painter has a loop at the proper point to slip over the bow cleat, positioning the dinghy at the shrouds where I can easily get in and out of it in a tideway. I do move it to the stern if it‘s going to be in the water for a while, just so it doesn’t rub the paint. I leave the halyard clipped to the toe-rail, then at the end of the last dinghy trip I can pick up the bridle from the bottom of the boat and hook it back onto the halyard before climbing out, then immediately start lifting the dinghy up after me.

Pete

 

[Spirit (of Glenans)]

Lifting any dinghy using the spiny halyard or main halyard either in flayed or deflated using a powered winch is a doodle. If the Op doesn’t have a powered winch then you might in invested in a Millie power handle or such like . If inflated just winch upright on to foredeck and swing around to where required to deflated. Extract all air using battery deflator and once in bag lift up by winch and lower into stern lazarette locker.

See post #5 above.