Ardenfour
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Opinions please - attachment of lifelines to pulpit - pelican hooks, snap shackles, or tied?
Lifeline ends
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sailorman
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tied
tt65
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Tied
tt65
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Error
Actually got that wrong.
Shackled or similar to PULPIT
Tied with string to PUSHPIT
Actually got that wrong.
Shackled or similar to PULPIT
Tied with string to PUSHPIT
Pye_End
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Just to clarify, when you say lifelines, do you mean what you attach your harness, or the guardrail?
Searush
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Mine used to be tied - can be cut with a knife if needed in a hurry.
But I switched to pelican clips at stern so I can release & connect them at will. It makes it easier for swmbo to get aboard from dink or for heavy boxes/ bags to be passed aboard.
Bow has always used rigging screws & remains so.
But, hell, it's your choice, what do you want to do?
But I switched to pelican clips at stern so I can release & connect them at will. It makes it easier for swmbo to get aboard from dink or for heavy boxes/ bags to be passed aboard.
Bow has always used rigging screws & remains so.
But, hell, it's your choice, what do you want to do?
samwise
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Tied to both pulpit and pushpit. Pelican hook across the stern and at gangway entrance.
pikeyrm
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tied to pulpit can cause more problems than you wish, allways tied to pushpit next to safety knife just in case.
Ehbendisdonc
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Mine were tied, but I recently fitted Sta-Lok pelican clips to attach them to the pushpit.
The clips make it a doddle to get aboard (dog included), and have made it really easy to get a disabled friend aboard. With my low freeboard, I could also detach them from the water if I had to.
The clips make it a doddle to get aboard (dog included), and have made it really easy to get a disabled friend aboard. With my low freeboard, I could also detach them from the water if I had to.
Ardenfour
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Well, i had tied before but the lines always went slack, snap shackles I've already got, hooks I'd need to buy. I have new lifelines to be fitted (Pulpit to Pushpit, Pye End) which have still to be cut to size, just wanted some opinions re pros n cons
William_H
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Lifeline attachment
Pelican hooks are the type which have a section of aprox 8mm SS rod which hooks through the thimble end or saddle on the stern rail and can then be levered around to the lock position so tightening the line. It is locked then by a small sliding cover. It can be released easily under tension.
I think this is the best arrangement especially if you want to release lines for easy boarding over the side.
Shackles will not get you much tension and can not be easily released. Cord lashing would be the next choice but must be cut for quick release.
I have been discussing the lifeline issue in MOB situation. Some say keep lifelines in place to give safety to the rescuers on deck. In this case lift MOB over the lines or pull him under the lines. Others might think it is easier to release lifelines so MOB can be lifted straight onto the deck over the side. I think in all cases helpers on deck should be harnessed and attached so they can't fall over board. Perhaps to release lifelines only at the time MOB is to come on board. This would require a quick release mechanism for lifeline. Your decision olewill
Pelican hooks are the type which have a section of aprox 8mm SS rod which hooks through the thimble end or saddle on the stern rail and can then be levered around to the lock position so tightening the line. It is locked then by a small sliding cover. It can be released easily under tension.
I think this is the best arrangement especially if you want to release lines for easy boarding over the side.
Shackles will not get you much tension and can not be easily released. Cord lashing would be the next choice but must be cut for quick release.
I have been discussing the lifeline issue in MOB situation. Some say keep lifelines in place to give safety to the rescuers on deck. In this case lift MOB over the lines or pull him under the lines. Others might think it is easier to release lifelines so MOB can be lifted straight onto the deck over the side. I think in all cases helpers on deck should be harnessed and attached so they can't fall over board. Perhaps to release lifelines only at the time MOB is to come on board. This would require a quick release mechanism for lifeline. Your decision olewill
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The Loop Is Supposed To Be Electrically Isolated
Assuming it is lifelines on the stanchions I have always attached them directly at the pull pit (shackles but now with a swaged clevis and pin) and with rope at the push pit.
I was advised that you need to have electrical isolation somewhere in the line otherwise you set up some sort of antenna loop which can interfere with electrical devices on the vessel.
The rope wasn't for quick release or safety it was to prevent this phenomena. The term "induction" springs to mind but I don't know if this is correct.
Assuming it is lifelines on the stanchions I have always attached them directly at the pull pit (shackles but now with a swaged clevis and pin) and with rope at the push pit.
I was advised that you need to have electrical isolation somewhere in the line otherwise you set up some sort of antenna loop which can interfere with electrical devices on the vessel.
The rope wasn't for quick release or safety it was to prevent this phenomena. The term "induction" springs to mind but I don't know if this is correct.
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maxi
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Originally the requirement to 'tie' the lines was due to the fact that; a continuous conductive loop around the boat impacted badly on the use of RDF equipment. As RDF is now a thing of the past there is no technical requirement to tie the guardlines.
However, as expressed by others, there is a need to have some form of quick release to aid man-overboard or other crises. For me lanyard tails and a handy knife provide this quick release, but pelican hooks etc also do the job well. It's your choice.
However, as expressed by others, there is a need to have some form of quick release to aid man-overboard or other crises. For me lanyard tails and a handy knife provide this quick release, but pelican hooks etc also do the job well. It's your choice.