Lifeboat Hulls

Re: Lifeboat Hulls, Prop Tunnels, The Bristol Channel and Tea

Hi there Ship's W...you can get props in tunnels on a deep vee hull. They are usually only half recessed though, and are not as protected as those on a lifeboat.

Many manfacturers use them either as part of a v drive set up or so they can position the engines further aft so as to increase the accommodation space in the midships and bows..

As for the Bristol Channel, in my limited experience down there you do tend to get some exaggerated sea conditions for the wind speed, so the area deserves its reputation. I had my hairiest ever experience down there between Tenby and Milford.

Having set off in what was forecast as a f5-6, we got 2/3 of the way there (and we were well offshore to avoid the overfalls and firing range) and then encountered some mountaneous seas.

We certainly could not plane as the would have been far, far too dangerous. I just dropped off the plane (as the local fishermen in Tenby had advised) and bobbed over the waves, tacking first into the waves and then back with them into Milford. To go accross them or onto the plane would have been suicidal.

WHen we got intot he harbour the relief was palpable and I don't think I will ever be as glad to see a town as dire as Milford as I was that day ever again! We found out that evening that the forecast F5-6 had blown into a fully fledged F10 unexpectedly while we were out.

This was 10 years ago now and I still remember it like it was yesterday!

Oh, and Gludy as for the "just asking questions" nonsense, will you please be honest and admit that you are only posting to get a reaction. If possible, could your next post be a little more original and perhaps on a topic other than red diesel or how good a displacement hull is? Please.

Perhaps a post on the merits of making tea whilst underway? Or even on the best variety of tea for any given sea state?
 
Re: Unsafe fruit bowl

No we're fine with the non-SOLAS one for now. It is CE marked, and my understanding is we only need a SOLAS fruit bowl if we get the boat MCA coded. It's rated for 15 pieces of fruit, and appears to be 316 stainless.

Anyway, we only get namby-pamby gales round here, not proper deep ocean ones like they do in Birmingham...
 
Re: Unsafe fruit bowl

Your reply beggars belief! I am dismayed at your cavalier attitude to fruit safety at sea, I hope you won't be using the rescue facilities if you have an unsafe fruit based scenario.
The thought of a loose Mango in a force seven sends shivers down my spine.
I'll wager Ellen was'nt so flippant in her choice of fruit retention.
 
Re: Tea choice

Benny, you obviously dont read the correct publications,"Approved beverages at sea"(MCA publication MC 427) If you bothered to go to section 4 sub section 7BA you would read that for force 7 and above only Earl Grey is approved.
 
Re: Tea choice

I suppose that fits - for a still day in the marina then English Breakfast will be the choice.

However, when the going gets rough, you do tend to need someting with a bit more of a kick.

When would you choose to drink Gludy's favourite "Tea Etc" though?
 
Re: Unsafe fruit bowl

Good to see humour survives! Agree in a way with both yourself & Gludy though on the general point, in differing conditions different boats would be desireable.

Like you find my Sealine to be glorious 99% of the time, but well remember getting caught coming back from Weymouth to Poole and it blew up one hell of a hooly. F8 - 9 gusting more according to annonometer in August 03. The day the RNLI did a record number of call outs, old girl fared brilliantly, only able to do 8 - 10knots comfortably though. Tried all sorts of speeds but anymore and she slammed like a death wish! Think I would have preferred to have had SD with Stabilisers that day!! Like others never forget days like that though, actually I loved it!!

Answer to a cup of tea in any weathers, any boat? ........... Preparation, make up a flask!! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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Brendan,

It justs shows how different a force 10 is in the Bristol Channel to the Solent.
Maybe the beaufort scale is calibrated differently in the Southampton area??
In Swansea in a force 10 we have 90mph+ winds being recorded at the coastguard on Mumbles Head

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Seems it is calibrated differently in Wales, at least. According to the Beaufort Scale, F10 is 48-55 knots of wind, or 55-63 mph. 90+ mph is 78+ knots and is off the scale - Hurricane 12 is 64+ knots...
 
This just shows how naive it is to always refer to wind speeds when describing weather/sea conditions. I've been out in a F9 with gusts to F11 - was quite exciting and very wet but not too rough as we were heading down towards Ardvasar with a Wly wind so Skye was protecting us. I've also been in a F3/4 with wind against Spring tides and a big swell running - this was far more scary.
 
Oooh no, don't start me on the merits of the Pifco Geysermattic (TM), a superior water heating product.
Marketed by that fine company Pifco Marine Trading or PMT as its known to the knowledgable few.
 
Absolutely right, Whisper. No-body would dream of going out in a Force 8 here on the west coast with a 3,000 mile fetch. The seas would be horrendous.

Obviously a Force 8 is nothing to the namby pambies hiding behind the IOW !!

(Ducks and runs ! )
 
Go on then. Give me a clue why you've brought up Solent boating, and then proceeded to turn it into a diatribe. Show me anywhere in my post where I mentioned the Solent, or even hinted as to the area I was referring to...and by the way I didn't trivialise anything, that's purely the way you chose to read it.

You really do seem to have an aweful big chip on your shoulders about Bristol boating. Have I ever mentioned I used to live on the Bristol Channel, and used to boat there?
 
Re: Lifeboat Hulls, Prop Tunnels, The Bristol Channel and Tea

Benny

My worst sea was between Tenby and Milford - off St Gowans Head.

I had plotted a course around the overfalls but was requested to follow a boat who had done it 100 times before ..... we hit 18 foot waves for about 20 minutes ... it was absolute hell and never to be forgotten.


"Oh, and Gludy as for the "just asking questions" nonsense, will you please be honest and admit that you are only posting to get a reaction. If possible, could your next post be a little more original and perhaps on a topic other than red diesel or how good a displacement hull is? Please. "

i do not know you you can say that, I have eben responsible for highlighting a whole series of issues about bacon butties, the best tea, sex life at sea and I even claim some influence in the follow up threads on planing ponttons .... so how you can say that just beats me!

Also my questions were just that questions aimed at getting answers ... I agree that was a stupid thing to do around here.

I actually think that if I was in the Med, flew over every weekend to the boat ... then my Squaddoe 59 would suit me better ... I have already stated that. So I am not saying one is better than the other full stop ... it depends on what the owner wants. What I am saying is that the sea keeping of d and semi-d hull is better than planing hulls (assuming the same good helming).

I m also very sceptical about some bacon butty claims ........
 
Re: Lifeboat Hulls, Prop Tunnels, The Bristol Channel and Tea

Have you bought a Trader yet Paul and if so when you going to get it, tell us a bit more about it spec etc???
 
Re: Lifeboat Hulls, Prop Tunnels, The Bristol Channel and Tea

But what's your opinion on the Tea debate Gludy?

Should we devise a scale of tea types called the "Tea State"? Would be much more interesting than sea state and F5 or F9 nonsense - simply say to your friends:-

"I was caught out in a right Earl Grey Earlier, but when I set off it was only supposed to be a Lapsang Sushong, backing English Breakfast later".

What do you think?

Seriously though, am interested to hear you also got caught out in similar waters - I have been and will be ultra cautious every time I am around there now.
 

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