Lidl Fire extinguishers coming again

Yes, I bought 3 in 2009 and will replace them with same when out of date. Box, markings ec. were all identical to those in Swindleries. Can't remember exact prices but I think I saw them in one chanlery for £27 each and think another had an even higher price.

I think I only paid £6.99 in 2009 so even at £27 I saved about £60 vs. chandlery price.

They do seem to fly off the shelves when Lidl get them in stock.
 
Mistroma said:
Yes, I bought 3 in 2009 and will replace them with same when out of date. Box, markings ec. were all identical to those in Swindleries. Can't remember exact prices but I think I saw them in one chanlery for £27 each and think another had an even higher price.

I think I only paid £6.99 in 2009 so even at £27 I saved about £60 vs. chandlery price.

They do seem to fly off the shelves when Lidl get them in stock.
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Much debate in the past about their service life ... mine are not marked with an expiry date!
 
I've recently used these guys and found their prices and delivery excellent

http://simplyextinguishers.co.uk/

What I have also realised is that there is a large difference (at least in theory) between one 1kg Powder extinguisher and another one of the same weight. I'm about as far away from being an expert of these things as you are lilkely to find but looking at the Simply Extinguishers site the ratings vary greatly from one model to another (these being the equivalent in gallons of water and surface area when multiplied by a factor they can extinguish e.g 5A 38B) Have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_extinguisher for an explanation

What I do know is that they charged me less than £140 for one of these http://simplyextinguishers.co.uk/2kg-automatic-fe36-extinguisher.html whereas most of the chandleries charge over £200. They also have a 2kg Powder extinguisher for £11.99 which seems pretty reasonable (subject to the comments about rating of course!)
 
Thanks, they are still on the boat so I can't check. However, I vaguely remember seeing a date on them. I must check next time I'm on the boat as it's time to up end them and give them a shake anyway. The powder does sometimes bed down and form a cake inside some models so I usually do this 2-3 times a year. If memory serves the powder will probably just be fine soda ash.

This is a general issue with powder extinguishers so not a comment about the Lidl ones. In fact, I've seen them advertised on-line as "Plastimo" with same markings as Lidl.
 
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chaktoura said:
I've recently used these guys and found their prices and delivery excellent

http://simplyextinguishers.co.uk/

What I have also realised is that there is a large difference (at least in theory) between one 1kg Powder extinguisher and another one of the same weight. I'm about as far away from being an expert of these things as you are lilkely to find but looking at the Simply Extinguishers site the ratings vary greatly from one model to another (these being the equivalent in gallons of water and surface area when multiplied by a factor they can extinguish e.g 5A 38B) Have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_extinguisher for an explanation

What I do know is that they charged me less than £140 for one of these http://simplyextinguishers.co.uk/2kg-automatic-fe36-extinguisher.html whereas most of the chandleries charge over £200. They also have a 2kg Powder extinguisher for £11.99 which seems pretty reasonable (subject to the comments about rating of course!)
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I see that they do a FireMax 1kg powder extinguisher for £11.99 and it is made by ANAF. I think that these are rebranded versions of the ANAF ones Lidl are selling.

I don't have any worries about buying the Lidl ones at a lower price, especially as they are the same as the ones I'd get from a Chandlery.

However, their prices are a lot better than a Chandler for other items.
 
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If memory servers the powder will probably just be fine soda ash.
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They used to be soda ash ( or was it bicarbonate) but they were just for B & C fires (???) .
The powder in those for A, B & C fires is a phosphate I believe which melts and seals the "fuel" in a class A fire from the air.

... or something like that
 
Many years since I found out they had Soda Ash (or might have been bicarb) in them so it could be different material now.

I think that mechanism wrt Soda Ash was to scavenge free radicals in the vicinity of the flame/air interface and this killed the reaction. Oxidiation stopped or slowed but heat still there so the fuel could re-ignite.

I didn't ever follow this explanation up to investigate the reaction in detail so can't prove that's what happens.

Melting phosphates sounds interesting as an alternative. A lot of organo-phosphates decompose readily on heating and some of the inorganic ones have quite low melting points and also decompose fairly readily.
 
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I have one of these in the shed and one in the kitchen (also a Lidl fire blanket in the kitchen).

Since seeing the Crash Test Boat fire video, though, I don't like the idea of powder on board. Found a cheap supplier online for foam ones.

Pete
 
Mistroma said:
Many years since I found out they had Soda Ash (or might have been bicarb) in them so it could be different material now.

I think that mechanism wrt Soda Ash was to scavenge free radicals in the vicinity of the flame/air interface and this killed the reaction. Oxidiation stopped or slowed but heat still there so the fuel could re-ignite.

I didn't ever follow this explanation up to investigate the reaction in detail so can't prove that's what happens.

Melting phosphates sounds interesting as an alternative. A lot of organo-phosphates decompose readily on heating and some of the inorganic ones have quite low melting points and also decompose fairly readily.
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ABC powder apparently mono-ammonium phosphate. (BC powder bicarb)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_extinguisher
 
The Lidel ones I have on the boat were date stamped, and due to be replaced this year, might just get down to Lidel early on Thursday.
 
Lidl, purveyors of fine fire equipment by appointment to Full Circle since 2005.

1 forecabin
2 saloon/galley
1 aft cabin
1 in engine compartment as well as the automatic, sadly not Lidl.

Still showing in green zone.


We bought 6 of their 6kg for a fiver each on clearance. Yep, a fiver. We keep one in the cockpit locker to fight your way back in with.

So buy them.

You could, if you were minded, afford to train crew with these, its so cheap.
 
Dry Powder should be banned

Dry Powder extinguishers are , IMHO, dangerous. Have any of you ever discharged one of these? I have, very recently on a work organised fire-fighting course. This was in the open air and within a few seconds of squeezing the trigger we all disappeared in a dense white, choking cloud and had to rapidly evacuate the area, moving a good 20 feet away. This is very disorientating and there was no way to see if you'd actually put the fire out! You would also have to 'feel' your way out. Our instructor, an ex-serving fire fighter and later station officer, said he would never have one himself. He made a personal recommendation that AFFF was better all-round. So happens I already have these on board. If you have an out-of-date dry powder extinguisher and are about to renew it, take it somewhere outside, away from anyone or anything and let it off; I think you'll have a shock.
 
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