Licensing for pleasure craft.

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[jamesjermain]

Re: Fined

I am minded, M'Lud, to instigate a tax on trolls, specious emails etc. This would be on a sliding scale based on the following criteria in which the percentages represent the proportion of total wealth forfeit

1) Restarting contentions posts which have been aired ad nausiam - 10 per cent
2) Posting without a biog - 10 per cent
3) Probably being a cover for an existing Scuttlebutter 10 per cent
4) Making inaccurate statements; viz this would raise standards of seamanship and the money would be spent on protecting our coasts - 10 per cent per item, minimum 30 per cent
5) Forcing me to indulge in an uncharracteristic rant - the balance



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[jac]

Re: Fined

only problem with that james is that that post probaly doesn't count as a rant. You need to liven it up with personal attacks or badly thought out hair-brained schemes to count as a rant imho

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[Aardee]

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Missed.../forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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[Aja]

Oi!

Would have spelled the name correctly.
Not me.

(I knew Claymore's little secret....no, not that one, the one about being - big breath here - Engerlish!)

Donald

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[Guest]

go to RYA ?????? are you sure ????

Last I heard wa that Olympic team costs were outweighed by adminsitration and support add-ons rather than the team itself ....

Now I am not saying RYA was involved or to blame .......... as I cannot remember who funded ...... but isn't there anough other ways to sort the money IF it happened ....


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[Rhumpole]

Boatone, thank you for your input! Now, the nickname Rhumpole. Well, as you quite correctly stated there are many thousands of the the original name "Rumpole".....I like my wine too, and was very taken, at the time, with the programme and so "Rhumpole" was born! - So to speak.

- The fact that I have little in my profile, means nothing. Profiles can be true or false. And before someone takes that amiss, I am NOT suggesting in any way that any are! I am merely stating a fact.

- As I have said before, open debate is good, and the fact that we dont like to talk about something does not mean it is not there in the background.



- I am not trying to be contentious or even to wind up jolly nice people. What I am seeking to do, is to bring something out into the open that has tended to be "one of those things" that people push to one side, because they feel uncomfortable with the subject, and become defensive when confronted with it. But I really don't think it's going to go away. - And it is better to have an input and a voice than have it foisted on one.

- To recap on what I said, and someone (Sorry, I can't remember who - Apologies) Said that there were several items.

- A. That privately owned pleasure/leasure craft should have - for want of better words - a " Sea licence" rather like the motor car. The resultant funds to be used for the improvement of the waters around our coast.

- B. That those who are skippers of such craft, are properly qualified and depending on how far out to sea the vessel travels, so this is mirrored in the qualification required.

- C. That those craft that have VHF radio/ VHF DSC etc have licences for the equipment and that those who operate it also hold a valid licence. (That does not mean that in an emergency someone, unqualified, cannot use the equipment)

- How the money for the licences is collected, distributed,administered and the enforcement of it, is an entirely seperate issue.

Rhumpole



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[KevB]

"- A. That privately owned pleasure/leasure craft should have - for want of better words - a " Sea licence" rather like the motor car. The resultant funds to be used for the improvement of the waters around our coast. "

<font color=red> I already pay £90 harbour dues thanks very much. So no need for more "Sea taxing".</font color=red>

- B. That those who are skippers of such craft, are properly qualified and depending on how far out to sea the vessel travels, so this is mirrored in the qualification required.

<font color=red> Why? Do you have any statistics that show this is necessary and will reduce accidents and or deaths? </font color=red>

- C. That those craft that have VHF radio/ VHF DSC etc have licences for the equipment and that those who operate it also hold a valid licence. (That does not mean that in an emergency someone, unqualified, cannot use the equipment)

<font color=red> Already a requirement and in place </font color=red>


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[jimi]

"- A. That privately owned pleasure/leasure craft should have - for want of better words - a " Sea licence" rather like the motor car. The resultant funds to be used for the improvement of the waters around our coast. "

How do you wish to improve them?

I can only think of 2 ways
1) Stopping crap going into the water .. in this case the cause & solution is nothing to do with the sea user
2) A particular hobby horse of mine .. blowing up dangerous rocks .. but the environmentalists wo'nt let us ;-(


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[boatone]

Oh poo........

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[Parsonsheath]

Sorry, but when I make my modest contribution to RNLI I do this on the basis that this is not yet a government department, and in fact it is a very well endowed charity, given your argument I suppose the government will now take over the "failing" RNLI on the "Value for money basis", and if it does not fail fast enough they will just take over the assetts!!!

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[steve_cronin]

SWMBO

"..Rumpole's wife, Hilda, is of course the original She Who Must Be Obeyed (putting aside Conan Doyle ftb)."

NO Ryder Haggard actually in "She" (who must be obeyed)

And just look at all those who've taken the bait of this wind-up merchant!

Steve Cronin



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[sailorman]

wot tent,where is it,can we go camping "Up the Smoke"???.

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[sailorman]

do they have "radio checks" each time they turn the thing on,

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[TheBoatman]

<<<<Boatman - I can see the MCA being landed with this enforcement action. You may have seen their new fast Halmatic twin driving water jet RHIBs with the primary use, as I understand it, of enforcement. >>>>>

Have you any idea how many people and how much money it would cost to man enough ribs to "enforce" the licencing?

I would bet more than the money it would ever bring in!!!

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[alec]

>Alec is a seasoned tree hugger, and doesn't appear to want to listen to reasoned arguements.<

I’am outraged at this statement.

I assume when you mean ‘reasoned arguments’ that they are reasoned arguments to you.

Mine don’t seem to matter then .

It’s a funny old life isn’t it ? I happen to feel that you and some others are not willing to listen to reasoned arguments either.

I am flattered though that you are directing others to read my posts.







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[Rhumpole]

Mmmmmm! - Just when you all thought I had gone away!

- Why not take a look at " Just got to post this" By Manxman in the Reader to Reader section.

Rhumpole.

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[tcm]

welfare state loony

um, people setting off to wittingly or unwittingly kill themselves don't invariably need regulation, as you and some others seem to think they do. There's a tiny number of casualties in boating, and an even tinier number of casualties inflicted by pleasure boaters upon anyone else except themselves.

You're right - something must be done - we need to get rid of everyone who invariably thinks "something must be done".

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[duncan]

Re: objection on the grounds of relevance...

... to your points

A. How would the improved water quality of the area have had any impact on the craft that run out of petrol or the rescuse services?
B. You are assuming a lack of qualifications on behalf of the skipper that has not been established. This could have been a foolhardy act by a highly qualified individual - not unheard of!
C. They didn't have a radio. Possibly because they didn't have a ship radio licence they took it off before departing........but now I am guilty of assumption/forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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