Knots on river?

kazbaz2

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not sure if its right but im sure the rule is 1 nuetical mile per nuetical knot i.e. 1 mile= 1 knot?correct me if im wrong

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1 knot = 1 nautical mile, of which there are 60 to a degree of latitude, which makes navigation nice and easy (well marginally easier anyway). but Nm's are not the same as statute miles, so 4 knots is roughly 5 mph

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NO IT IS NOT!!! SEMANTICS, BUT VERY IMPORTANT SEMANTICS.

One knot is one Nautical Mile per hour. It is a measure of speed, not a linear distance.

Yes a nautical mile is slightly longer than a statute mile, 6076 feet as against 5280, so one knot equals 6076/5280 miles per hour, ie 1.15075757575mph.

The term "knots per hour" so beloved of yotties is in fact an acceleration, somewhat akin to Newtons law of gravity of 32ft/per second/per second, ie one nautical mile/per hour/per hour. At a "speed" of say 10 knots per hour, you would break the sound barrier in about 3 days!

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I don't understand what you are getting at. What's a river got to do with it? A knot is 1 nautical mile per hour, it's a measure of speed, where does a river make any difference? Apart from maybe a speed limit.

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If I get your drift. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif
Find the flow rate and either add or subtract it to your log speed (with/against).

Failing that take along someone with a handhald GPS and check the SOG.

Dave.

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Isnt it a pity........

.....that peeps dont read the question properly ...../forums/images/icons/smile.gif

Im not telling how fast Ive done on the river but I do behave reasonably responsibly!
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Not as fast as others I could mention.

My favourite was when I was looking to buy another Princess 37, and the then owner proudly declared that he regulary went tonking up along Runneymede at 26knots and did I want a demo!

Thankfully for us all he sold it and its gone down the coast now.



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Re: Isnt it a pity........

Tony, would you mind explaining what he means, please? I can't make it out, sorry but I've read it six or seven times.

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Re: Knots as speed

I thought that thats what I was saying.... in a nice easy way to understand.

But a knot is the same speed whether on land sea, air or river - so where DOES the river come in to the questioners question?

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Re: Knots as speed

I'm still at a loss myself, but boatone, seems to think I didn't read the question???

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Re: Knots as speed

4knts = speed limit on river (not the same everywhere of course)
How fast = what top speed actually attained on river

I've known few people on non-tidal Thames who have opened up and been in excess of 40knts after a few evening drinks on way back from pub.


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I mainly agree with you Mike ...

particularly from a philological and etymological perspective (what me, full of bullshit?). Howver, I believe the great Captain Bligh uses the term 'knots per hour' in the log of HMS Bounty.

Has the meaning changed over the years, or was Bligh being careless?

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Re: I mainly agree with you Mike ...

We once went to a certain river to test a rebuilt outboard. The man in the office said its water skiing day but there is nobody here today sure go ahead give it a good blast if you want. Phantom 17 plus race tuned 150 Yamaha 70mph plus and im not saying how much plus, no names no packdrill.

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