owen
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I was wondering what suggestions there are for tying the dinghy painter on. It has the conventional one ring on each side and a central ring. thanks in advance
knots for dinghy painter
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johnalison
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I'm not sure about conventional. I have either had a single ring or a pair. Any knot that won't come undone will do, but for a permanent fixing I would make an eye splice round a plastic eye. Putting a bridle on the pair would make a better fix for towing. If you want a compact knot that won't come off, a halyard knot is good.
Poignard
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Mine has a fisherman's bend with a seizing to prevent it working loose
Mistroma
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I use an anchor bend and it's never come undone, seizing does make it tidier. Of course an anchor bend is just another name for a fisherman's bend.
LadyInBed
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If you just use the centre ring, then put an eye splice in the painter then cow hitch it to the ring.
If you want to use the two outside tube rings then I would use a double length painter and eye splice each end onto the two rings to form a long bridle. One advantage of this is it helps stop the dinghy snaking.
If you want to use the two outside tube rings then I would use a double length painter and eye splice each end onto the two rings to form a long bridle. One advantage of this is it helps stop the dinghy snaking.
Daydream believer
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Last year I was asked to rig a painter on a similar dinghy so I spliced an eye to each of the outer rings with short lines. I then spliced the main painter with eye to the centre eye. I then spliced the short lines onto the main painter so that there was equal tension on all 3 lines when towing.
On the end of the painter I spliced a loop big enough to double over the towing cleat a couple of times, because the client was unsure about tying knots. & had already lost the dinghy once.
On the end of the painter I spliced a loop big enough to double over the towing cleat a couple of times, because the client was unsure about tying knots. & had already lost the dinghy once.
lw395
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A simple eye splice with no thimble, straight onto the stainless ring has served for about 10 years so far.
Refueler
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There's me as a quickie simply passing painter through the ring and doing a bowline !! Which usually ends up lasting years !!
RichardS
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Indeed. My painter is a bowline through the central eye in the ally hull and it's been undisturbed for 7 years now.
Richard
ithet
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Its not just the knot that needs to be secure. Check the eye ring is fixed with a locking nut. Its embarrassing when moored to see dingy go past on the tide while painter and ring still attached to yacht. Don't ask how I know!
Jim@sea
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A friend tied his dingy painter to the guardrail of my boat using a Bowline. I told him it would come undone. He knew better.
The following morning the dingy had disappeared.
Overnight the constant tugging and releasing of the dingy pulling at the painter had loosened the knot.
Plus the rope was far too thin polypropylene.
Refueler
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Must have been shi***y bowline then ... the design of the bowline is supposed to have a reasonable free tail after the knot .... I can bet there are many others here that have had to do same as myself - unable to undo a Bowline - had to cut it off.
But of course if you use cheap builders shop PP rope - its so loose lay-up - it will never hold properly, whatever knot you use. .
If a bowline properly made and in good rope is so prone to falling apart - think of all those flogging / going about gennys that have the sheets so fastened ...
coveman
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+1 !
johnalison
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A bowline shouldn't part, but it only takes a second to put an extra half-hitch with the tail for safety.
Stemar
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I once had my dinghy tied on behind using the rather nasty line supplied as a painter. A few hours later I looked up. "Oh, some idiot didn't tie their dinghy on properly. "Oh, that idiot is me!" Cue a chase through the moorings with not quite enough water to catch up with it. A properly tied round turn and two half hitches hadn't held in the slippy line Excel seems to think is adequate for their dinghies. I know it was properly tied, because I'd had knots work loose before, so I was always careful. I know have snap shackle attaches with an anchor hitch with the working end seized to the standing part.
They use a thicker version of the same rubbish for the grablines along the tops of the tubes and the "splices" have come undone, so replacing them with laid rope and proper eye splices is a job to be done before launching.
They use a thicker version of the same rubbish for the grablines along the tops of the tubes and the "splices" have come undone, so replacing them with laid rope and proper eye splices is a job to be done before launching.
Refueler
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As Stemar ... I think we all have had gear with that silly open laid crap line ... that only way to keep a knot in is to glue the bloo** stuff !!
Splices ? Usually because its basically a loosely braided 'tube' - they heat the end to form a hard V and then just feed it back into the 'tube' and pull tight. Thinking that like 'real braid' it will hold.
Splices ? Usually because its basically a loosely braided 'tube' - they heat the end to form a hard V and then just feed it back into the 'tube' and pull tight. Thinking that like 'real braid' it will hold.
