Kiwi ship loss

[veshengro]

Current affairs? Possibly, but there is an interesting situation developing involving the loss of a HMNZS vessel on a reef off Samoa. All hands rescued.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=new+zealand+ship+loss

 

[capnsensible]

I think it's highly relevant. This is a Naval Vessel. Hydrographic Surveys. Diving salvage, yadda yadda. It should definitely not be an accident waiting to happen.

Happily all the crew are off. There is a captain, however, who is due a stand up interview, no biscuits.

 

[Wansworth]

I think it's highly relevant. This is a Naval Vessel. Hydrographic Surveys. Diving salvage, yadda yadda. It should definitely not be an accident waiting to happen.

Happily all the crew are off. There is a captain, however, who is due a stand up interview, no biscuits.

Is “no biscuits” a navy term for what?

 

[capnsensible]

Is “no biscuits” a navy term for what?

It means a small flat cake that is dry and usually sweet.

If you are invited to sit at an interview with tea and biscuits, the news will be good.

On the other hand......

 

[capnsensible]

Dunno how to link it, but if you type in Navy lookout twitter, there are some pictures. The site is safe and you don't need to be a twitter user.

 

[Neeves]

People have short, or selective, memories. Its common procedure in this part of the world

Inquiry as British destroyer holed off Australia

and much more recently

Navy boat gifted by Australia to Fiji stranded on reef after maiden voyage

but seriously embarassingly

Chinese nuclear attack submarine sank during construction, US says

Jonathan

 

[DreadShips]

Iran managed to sink the same ship TWICE in harbour recently during refit. Dark mutterings that they'd added more top weight to a design already plagued with dubious stability, although it's equally possible a seacock was open. Its sister ship managed to capsize during construction.

By those standards, crashing into the seabed feature you were mapping is positively quotidian.

(I write about these sorts of things elsewhere - my considered take is we don't really know enough about what happened yet to condemn anyone, though I dare say some of the obvious suspicions will prove correct)

 

[capnsensible]

Iran managed to sink the same ship TWICE in harbour recently during refit. Dark mutterings that they'd added more top weight to a design already plagued with dubious stability, although it's equally possible a seacock was open. Its sister ship managed to capsize during construction.

By those standards, crashing into the seabed feature you were mapping is positively quotidian.

(I write about these sorts of things elsewhere - my considered take is we don't really know enough about what happened yet to condemn anyone, though I dare say some of the obvious suspicions will prove correct)

An alien Ray gun disabled the vessels air conditioning systems and all the crew fainted.

Not sure that happens daily though. Yeah I looked up quotidian as the word of the day..

It has left me somewhat interperitoctaically frasmotic.

 

[capnsensible]

For those that have raised steam early, avalook at this:

I was captain of a ship much like the New Zealand one that just sank. Mine almost sank too

 

[DreadShips]

Showing dayshape for restricted in ability to manoeuvre is a spectacular piece of understatement in the circumstances.

 

[AntarcticPilot]

Iran managed to sink the same ship TWICE in harbour recently during refit. Dark mutterings that they'd added more top weight to a design already plagued with dubious stability, although it's equally possible a seacock was open. Its sister ship managed to capsize during construction.

By those standards, crashing into the seabed feature you were mapping is positively quotidian.

(I write about these sorts of things elsewhere - my considered take is we don't really know enough about what happened yet to condemn anyone, though I dare say some of the obvious suspicions will prove correct)

Nothing new under the sun - the Wasa sank on its maiden voyage, being horrendously top-heavy and unstable!

 

[Frank Holden]

For those that have raised steam early, avalook at this:

I was captain of a ship much like the New Zealand one that just sank. Mine almost sank too

HMS Endurance in Estrecho de Magallanes? Same issue as 'sank' a BP tanker alongside the Kwinana (WA) refinery when they flooded the engineroom.
British Dragoon, 1970.
Mas aqui Kwinana Incident
Its always the plumbers.

 

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[Bouba]

I think it's highly relevant. This is a Naval Vessel. Hydrographic Surveys. Diving salvage, yadda yadda. It should definitely not be an accident waiting to happen.

Happily all the crew are off. There is a captain, however, who is due a stand up interview, no biscuits.

The captain is gaining some powerful allies….she might just get interviewed sitting down and offered some custard creams
New Zealand minister criticises trolling of sunk ship's female captain

 

[arc1]

The captain is gaining some powerful allies….she might just get interviewed sitting down and offered some custard creams
New Zealand minister criticises trolling of sunk ship's female captain

The minister has a very good point. Some of the stuff written about the CO online is truly appalling - absolutely derogatory on a very personal level, without any knowledge of the events leading up to the sinking. The CO has not only gone through what must count as a fairly challenging day at work, but now has to try and avoid seeing some of the vitriol written about her, her relationships, and belittling any achievements in reaching the position she has.
An investigation is underway. If this uncovers professional failings then fair enough, criticise away on those grounds (whilst, if a sailor, hoping that mistakes we've made don't lead to a hole in the boat).
A longer post than I would normally write but I'm continuously amazed at the number of people (thankfully they don't appear to be commenting on this thread) willing to jump to conclusions based on personal prejudice without being in possession of the full, or any, facts.

 

[doug748]

Finding now out:

Looks like the skipper and bridge crew will be scragged and the real cause will be ignored.

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