KAMD 300 EDC would you?

[simongoldthorpe]

I know it's boring and probably been asked before but I am looking at a 1 year old boat with twin KAMD 300 EDCs. Done 70 hours - what does the team think?

Any special problems or high servicing costs?

Thanks for all your anticipated polite responses.



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[cliffdale]

I cant really help,but I would like to poke my nose in here. Im selling my Sealine and changing to a targa 34.

Some of the targa's have 300EDC but most have the KAD44s.

Is it worth spending a little more for the biger engines? Will fuel consumption go up. There is little difference in speed so what is the advantage?

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[DERF]

I've just sold a boat that had KAD 300's EDC. Had a few initial teething problems as one does with all new boats.. but all resolved under warranty. Never had any major problems.

Any of the niggly things should have now been sorted so IMHO go fo the bigger engines with EDC. Once you've used EDC you won't go back to cables.






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[powerskipper]

EDC are very light controls, they may have a delay from first engaged to movement, but this only require practise to Handel and thinking ahead a bit, as said already, most love them and once had do not want to go back to cable ones.

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[Renegade_Master]

"only require practise to Handel and thinking ahead"
..... why'd you suddenly refer to a famous composer then/forums/images/icons/smile.gif

So why do you think peeps prefer them after using for a while, I mean you must go from cable to EDC all the time, do you really prefer then cos they are lighter?

I have not used them a lot, and the cable ones on the F36 are really easy to use, I know some cable controls can be notchy. I just like the feel I get from mine

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[powerskipper]

Well
Could be that it brings music to my ears or
its spelt right just not right work, can't win em all /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

People like the lightness of the control, its finger tip pressure, quite often with lots of power.
I am teaching a couple this week who have a cable boat in New Zealand [shame not own boat but never mind] and they are on an EDC controlled boat, the wife finds the control much lighter than their own boat, therefore easy to use.
I like both types.

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[admillington]

My last three boats have had EDC controls - on two pairs of KAD44s and the current boat twin KAD300s. The whole package has been faultless, the only issue has been the disappearing leg anodes due the stainless steel props.

My only concern is that an engine that is only 3.6 litres produces 285HP and stated off at 124HP. Is it sceaming it's nuts off and won't last. I note that the new D6 at 310HP is over 5 litres.




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[[2068]]

Depends how you use it. Driving a heavy semi-displacement hull with a KAMD300 at close to flat out will have a bad end at some point. Crusing at 80% in a planing hull should see thousands of hours logged before it explodes PROVIDED you adjust the valves and change belts at 200 hours, and change oil/filters at 100 hours.

Very few engines blow up because they didn't have enough displacement. The KAMD300 is exactly the same as that old 125hp version, apart from the turbo, the supercharger, the aftercooler, the cylinder head, camshaft & valvetrain, the pistons, the conrods, the crankshaft, the cooling system, the block, the fuel injection system, and the EDC control & monitoring system.

The exhaust pipe is the same.

Also, the new engines are REALLY HEAVY.
D6-280 (DP,280) = 750 KG !!!!!!!!!!!!!
KAD300 (DP,285) = 576 KG

D4-210 (DP,210) = 644 KG !!!!!!!!!!!!!
KAD32 (DP,170) = 475 KG

dv.

 

[Renegade_Master]

Yup I have noticed that the ladies prefer the lighter touch of EDCs................... they say mine is a bit stiff to handle and they need two hands/forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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[RDL]

I have KAD 44's on my Targa 37. 300 version virtually identincal. As with the 44,s get the tappets adjusted yearly and not 200 hrs as Volvo sugest. The 44's and 300's are 4 valves per cyliner. The rocker arm presses down on a 'T' piece that slides up and down on a dowel that is presses into the head. If the 2 sides of the 'T' does not apply equal force on the pushrods, the 'T' piece snaps off. I have first hand experience of this.

This must happen on a regular basis because Volvo had a written procedure to remove the sheared dowel from the head. Apart from this my 44's have performed faultlessly and I love the EDC controls - very lights and responsive. Hope this makes sense.
Rob.

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