JW's Upgrades for 2016 - Tender

[jfm]

Wow, what a great success Hurricane. Bravo to you. It's a great fit and looks the proper "serious cruising" part.

Would it be possible to get rid of the two blue straps and just hold the Novu down using 4 ratchet straps going to Wichard (or similar) eyes bolted (with decent backing pads) to the side GRP mouldings or deck of the flybridge? I think I'd prefer this because you can strap it down harder without fear of chafe, and you have the x2 redundancy of 2x bow and 2x transom straps.

 

[Pinnacle]

Mike

You must be both relieved and delighted! It looks "natural" for it to be up there on the flybridge. Its been a most successful winter project. :encouragement:

 

[BartW]

well done Mike, it was a challenge to get this new tender deliverd and down in SC but really worth the effort, imo
I know you're pleased with your WB, but considering the size, and our experience with the Nov 430, this is just another league !

tbh it perfectly fits you P65,
I was afraid the size was on the edge, but it just looks perfect.

now just adding a hi lo platform, and comfort onboard is limitless

good luck with the new tender !

 

[Hurricane]

Wow, what a great success Hurricane. Bravo to you. It's a great fit and looks the proper "serious cruising" part.

Would it be possible to get rid of the two blue straps and just hold the Novu down using 4 ratchet straps going to Wichard (or similar) eyes bolted (with decent backing pads) to the side GRP mouldings or deck of the flybridge? I think I'd prefer this because you can strap it down harder without fear of chafe, and you have the x2 redundancy of 2x bow and 2x transom straps.

Just got back from the bar and seen these posts.

Yes - We always had those blue straps as a "kind of" "belt and braces" backup/
Not sure about the future of them - they will rub against the tubes.
On the WB, we ran them over the cover to protect the hypalon.
We ptobably don't need them but they "kind of" give some "peace of mind"

You can't see it in the photo but the aft end of the Novurania is already held down with straps and ratchet tensioners.
There was an existing ring in the flybridge deck which is in the correct place to hold the dinghy's stern down.
Unlike yours, it has auto trim tabs and I've also fitted a transom mounted depth transducer so it is a little complicated.
The deck ring has turned out to be a good fixing to hold the stern down.
25 knot winds here tonight and it is rock steady.

The next job is to fabricate a teak block for the engine to rest in.

There is already a Wichard ring under the bow so I intend rigging a strap/straps with a couple of hooks/caribinas back to a ratchet close to the FB stairs
Once the dinghy is in place, it should be an easy job to lean over, clip the hooks on and then tighten the ratchet to fix the bow in a similar manner to your pic.

But, essentially, IT FITS

I will post some more pics before we leave in the middle of next week

 

[jfm]

Fantastic! Good on you for the careful measuring and brave decision that it would fit, despite us teeth suckers!

It more than fits - it looks the biz

Ref teak block for engine skeg to rest on, I see 100s of boats with that. I don't bother - I just let the engine rest on its hydraulic ram, with the skeg 50mm above the deck Sure, that sort of loads the ram a bit, but I don't care and have been doing it for years. I don't see why a ram can't be loaded for 20 years without suffering

 

[MapisM]

It more than fits - it looks the biz

Absolutely +1.

Hurric, my concern that the 430 would have looked a bit OTT up there on JW was completely wrong, and I'm happy to eat my humble pie about that. :encouragement:
Just curious (and too lazy to google for that), do you remember the max beam of the P67? Must be wider than I imagined...

 

[jfm]

Hurric, my concern that the 430 would have looked a bit OTT up there on JW was completely wrong, and I'm happy to eat my humble pie about that. :encouragement:

Yes me too. We can buy a maxi-pack of humble pies. And I'm really pleased for Hurric that this is such a success because he will enjoy the long legs of the Novurania so much - you can see the deep vee hull in the pictures. He will soon be reporting 250 hours on the Yamaha!

 

[Hurricane]

Absolutely +1.

Hurric, my concern that the 430 would have looked a bit OTT up there on JW was completely wrong, and I'm happy to eat my humble pie about that. :encouragement:
Just curious (and too lazy to google for that), do you remember the max beam of the P67? Must be wider than I imagined...

The P67 is 5.23m beam but I was concerned to keep the tender within that beam - the engine really needed to be where it is.

Despite JFM's comments, I think I will still go ahead with the teak engine resting block.
Current thought is to shape a block to fit the FB moulding and strap the prop end of the engine down with a new deck eye. That same deck eye could also provide extra strapping to the transom like the red ones in JFM's modified pic.
I would really like to remove those over straps completely.
We will always be keaving the boat with the dinghy covered and those overstraps might just be in the way.

Thanks again to JFM's suggested mod for the extra Vs in the outboard end of each chock.
They provide a good resting point during the lift.
The crane's "cheeks" are indeed the biggest concern during a lift and recover - both the forward and port tubes need to be semi deflated and even then the crane rubs against them.
We might make up a clip on protection pad that could go in between the crane and the tube during the tight part of the lift.

I will post some pics of the finished chocks and the plastic dock later.

 

[Bigplumbs]

Looks like a very interesting project and a lovely tender. I am sure the trip down was fun. enjoy your new toy in sunny spain

Dennis

 

[John100156]

She certainly seems to fit well, looks just right..... does she launch or crane-in as well as the WB?

 

[rbcoomer]

That's indeed a good job - looks very at home there. What a great result :encouragement:

 

[Hurricane]

Pics as promised

First, ones that show the chocks and the overhanging support

And then some of the Novurania on its plastic dock.

We had a few problems working out how to load it onto the dock.
The solution that we have come up with, is to winch it on using JW's stern docking winches.
We just "nussle" the bow up to the dock, and then winch it on.
You can just see the rope that we used - the process will be refined by using a proper turning block/pulley.
Probably pop over to the Fisherman's Co-op on Monday and see what I can find.

 

[rafiki_]

Looks a fantastic set up H. Really nicely engineered. Isn't it great when a plan comes together ��

 

[vas]

Mike,

missed the point of the platform, are you going to have that next to mother ship all through the season? Are you paying extra for the mooring space for it (looks like it takes a decent space that they could cram in another 30ft craft in there!)

end result looks v.good, f/b overhang is a good place to store something bulky out of the way

cheers

V.

 

[jfm]

Hurricane, just for idle interest here's a pic I took 2 weeks ago of a p67 with a Brig Eagle 380 up top. Not as big as yours, but getting on for it. Nick-H bought a brig Eagle 380 recently too. Typically 375-400kg with 50hp and fuel

 

[Nick_H]

Mine is actually a 340, and < 300 kgs all up with fuel. I have 280 kgs crane, but dont need to fully extend to launch and retrieve

 

[Hurricane]

Hurricane, just for idle interest here's a pic I took 2 weeks ago of a p67 with a Brig Eagle 380 up top. Not as big as yours, but getting on for it. Nick-H bought a brig Eagle 380 recently too. Typically 375-400kg with 50hp and fuel

Thanks for the pic
It shows that it is possible.
I've had mine up and down several times now.

Also, your idea of the extra Vs in the chocks has worked out really well.
You may remember that I also extended the chocks to better accommodate the Vs.
Often not used as originally intended - but they are great to wash the hull down - standing on the cockpit rail above the seating area in the cockpit, I can then reach the bottom of the dinghy's starboard side.
And it is also easy to clean the dinghy's port side bottom because it is higher and outboard - if you know what I mean.

It is also quite handy sometimes to stop the lift buy resting on these Vs as originally intended.
A number of times, I have forgotten to deflate the port tube so resting there works.

So, a simple additional suggestion of yours has worked out to be really useful.

And thanks to my friend in SC for giving me these door stops - gives the outboard edge of the chock some extra support.

 

[Hurricane]

Update on the Novurania 430DL.

We are in Roses at the moment so we thought we would put the Novurania dinghy to a test.
About 10 miles each way out to Port Lligat (a bay where Salvador Dali had his house).
We left early.
On the way out, the sea was fine - settled down at a steady 15 knots.
But on the way back the sea was "kicked up" by, literally, hundreds of boats.
The little RIB handled it well - most importantly keeping SWMBO dry - she (SWMBO that is) doesn't like rough water.

Anyway, once there, we found a secluded bay, dropped an anchor and went for a swim.

Later, we went into Cadaques for lunch.
Not sure we should have tied up here but there was an excellent cafe just above.

All in all, the Novurania seems to be doing her job.
Launching and recovering from the flybridge is becoming easier now that we are used to it.
We even leave the bimini on (folded down) when launching and recovering from the flybridge.

 

[MapisM]

Mine is actually a 340, and < 300 kgs all up with fuel. I have 280 kgs crane, but dont need to fully extend to launch and retrieve

You mean a 280Kg passerelle/crane, I suppose? I'm not aware of any P57 with f/b crane.

@Hurricane: happy to see that you are exploiting the Novu to the fullest.
As much as I loved trying your previous speed demon jetski, your new tender is a much better addition to JW for good! :encouragement:

 

[rafiki_]

Looks fantastic Mike, great result.