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While at the Southampton boat show, I stopped by at the Jotun stand to enquire about Sea queen. I was taken back by the response, they told me it is for commerical and not leisure boats, and then went on to say if the boat hasn't moved for over 8days the product looses it's antifouling properties, they continued but I lost interest.

I only asked about it as I rmember reading it on here from satisfied owners.

Anyone got an opinion about this, or is it as I suspect, they were talking carp to sell a more expensive product for leisure boats (as they tried it with me).

Is Seaqueen any good and anyone had longer term experience using the product including any problems when the boat has not been used for a while. Lastly where did you get it from?
 
I also spoke with the rep on the Jotun stand about SeaQueen and I got much the same story; indeed he was quite irritated about it being available. He seemed unconvinced when I told him it as the best anti-foul I'd ever used and not happy when I said I was going to buy more and not his stuff.

He seemed to be quite angry that SeaQueen was being sold at all and reckoned it didn't have the right elf and safety info supplied....
 
Thanks for the info, I think I will give it a try for next year. As Omega has suggested, I might just raise it with them to see what response I get. Mind you the SML website does say "Please note Seaqueen has HSE approval for professional use only". Not sure what that means for the leisure boater.

Adeolly, yea he was a little irritated, not a happy chap at all.
 
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omega2 said:
I have used for years, no problem, in fact we only have her out bi-annually and even then there is little if any growth, just slime. I think a word with http://www.smlmarinepaints.co.uk/
will bring the reps to heel.
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Its very soft, you get slime on the hull if you dont move and a bit of weed at the waterline but its by far and away the best I've used and lasts 2 years if 2 good coats put on. I suspect it is intended for commercial use based on references to it lasting 3 years on fishing boats where constant movement keeps it polished. If we arent supposed to use it why does it come in relatively small cans?
 
I bought Sea Quantum Ultra from someone on the internet last year. Boat antifouled May 2011 and has been in ever since, didn't move for about 8 months in the river Dart, when i dived and looked a month or so back the hull was as clean as a whistle. And that's on a pure displacement hull. Very impressed, will certainly look to use it again when I next need some.
 
Two years worth

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As you can see just a bit of slime, no problem with a jet wash.
 
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Scubadoo said:
Thanks for the info, I think I will give it a try for next year. As Omega has suggested, I might just raise it with them to see what response I get. Mind you the SML website does say "Please note Seaqueen has HSE approval for professional use only". Not sure what that means for the leisure boater.

Adeolly, yea he was a little irritated, not a happy chap at all.
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Yes, "Professional Use Only" was what SIBS man said as it's missing the guidance in 27 languages that tells you not to drink it, use to to cook with, breathe the fumes, use it as shampoo etc etc.
 
Scubadoo said:
Anyone got an opinion about this, or is it as I suspect, they were talking carp to sell a more expensive product for leisure boats (as they tried it with me).
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The very reason I picked Jotun was that in the past I'd used their above-waterline products in painting a quasi-commercial ship, and liked the idea of using quality "industrial" products rather than expensive "yachting" brands. When they started to go down the "yachting" route themselves I was concerned (especially as they discontinued the hard antifoul I had been using at the same time). Given the choice I'd probably buy Hempel etc rather than Jotun's yacht brands, just to avoid giving them any encouragement in this venture.

It's the good, cheap fishing-boat paints we want.

Pete
 
prv said:
<snip> Given the choice I'd probably buy Hempel etc rather than Jotun's yacht brands, just to avoid giving them any encouragement in this venture.

It's the good, cheap fishing-boat paints we want.
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I use Hempel on mine (Blakes Tiger Xtra). A coat on any chips, full coat everywhere then an extra coat on the leading edges etc. Minimal slime after a year, the odd bit of growth at the waterline if the boat isn't used for a few weeks, which brushes off easy enough. Pretty sure i really only need to do it every two years, but has always been done annually as part of the service.
 
PaulGooch said:
I use Hempel on mine (Blakes Tiger Xtra).
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We had to use Hempel one year, when my mother mistook the Jotun for a case of wine (long story). Worked about the same as the Jotun, at double the cost or more (can't remember the exact prices).

The point is that I do not want to pay extra for special yachty paint in pretty tins, I want to buy a bucket of what commercial ships and fishing boats use, at something approaching their prices. If I'm forced to buy yachty paint, I'll avoid Jotun's version to signal my disapproval at their recent entry into the fleece-the-yachties market.

I think this was the reaction their man at the boatshow was getting, and he didn't like it.

Pete
 
prv said:
The point is that I do not want to pay extra for special yachty paint in pretty tins, I want to buy a bucket of what commercial ships and fishing boats use, at something approaching their prices. If I'm forced to buy yachty paint, I'll avoid Jotun's version to signal my disapproval at their recent entry into the fleece-the-yachties market.

Pete
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Not sure why.. you arent going to be using much of it surely, and unless you use your boat as often as commercial vessels, I wouldnt have thought using an a/f specially produced for those condition is going to be ideal for you anyway.
Conditions vary location to location and summer to summer, so I think you can get a probably successful a/f, but you cant be sure that it will be no 1 this particular season.
The magazines have done a number of reviews, so there is some good advice.
I reckon it costs me about £100 a year in a/f... compare that to the marina bill.. if the a/f works, forget the small price difference is my view.
 
Jotun SeaQueen = £53.95 for 2.5l and needs two coats.

Tiger Xtra = £69.95 for 2.5l and only needs one coat, with a second coat on the leading edges.

£16 less, but would you get two coats from the 2.5l ? Even if the answer is yes, i'm more than happy to pay £16 to save rolling it on.

Anyway, they don't do Jotun in green :)
 
I would imagine that an antifoul that is going onto a boat doing vast distances in a year might need different properties from an a/f for a vessel that sits in a marina vast hours a year ;)
Well, think of the various hard vs eroding. Eroding isnt going to work if you dont move,
 
gjgm said:
I would imagine that an antifoul that is going onto a boat doing vast distances in a year might need different properties from an a/f for a vessel that sits in a marina vast hours a year ;)
Well, think of the various hard vs eroding. Eroding isnt going to work if you dont move,
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I agree that would seem to be how it should work; however it's not been borne out in practice, at least for me. When I last went for a swim around the boat in late August it was extremely clean after being in for 10 months, and I have virtually no loss of speed. Boat was idle for several weeks on the trot during that time, including the June summer deluge with warm waters. We are hoping to get out this weekend after three non-boaty weekends, so it will be interesting to see if we able to shake off the fouling and manage to plane. My bet is yes :D
 
AdeOlly said:
I agree that would seem to be how it should work; however it's not been borne out in practice, at least for me. When I last went for a swim around the boat in late August it was extremely clean after being in for 10 months, and I have virtually no loss of speed. Boat was idle for several weeks on the trot during that time, including the June summer deluge with warm waters. We are hoping to get out this weekend after three non-boaty weekends, so it will be interesting to see if we able to shake off the fouling and manage to plane. My bet is yes :D
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Keep us posted, interested to know if you have problems of fouling while not in use.
 
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