Jordan Series Drogue, some practical questions
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webcraft
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Precisely - the total force exerted is the same. And with a chain of mini-droguelets the majority of them will always be working even if a short section is not.
The problem with conventional drogues is precisely that - 100% of the drag force relies on one object remaining submerged and stable. The Seabrake may be a very clever single drogue, but it is still a single drogue, with its effectiveness depending on that one object remaining stable in all conditions. I am sure the seabrake is very cleverly engineered, but it is still just a fancy tyre on the end of a rope.
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VO5
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Aw, alright then....
Have your own way about it, because there is nothing worse than engaging with people who do not understand that they do not understand however precisely and clearly something is explained.
Have a Good Evening.
Have your own way about it, because there is nothing worse than engaging with people who do not understand that they do not understand however precisely and clearly something is explained.
Have a Good Evening.
webcraft
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Lady Campanula
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duncanmack
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I've followed the discussion here with great interest - a fascinating subject to be sure. I have one little question though. What kind of anchor does the panel recommend for the end of the drogue? 
Lady Campanula
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I've followed the discussion here with great interest - a fascinating subject to be sure. I have one little question though. What kind of anchor does the panel recommend for the end of the drogue?
Now you're just stirring the snit!
webcraft
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We've got a short length of chain and an old grapnel (bungeed shut) on ours. It fits in the bag.I've followed the discussion here with great interest - a fascinating subject to be sure. I have one little question though. What kind of anchor does the panel recommend for the end of the drogue?
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machurley22
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I suspect that Fascadale has lost interest and gone to the pub. Mine's a wee goldie Paul.
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Downsman
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He lasted well then. I read the first word of the heading, saw Jordan and thought it was about a lady with a lot of top hamper..not so..immediate loss of interest..
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Fascadale
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Emigrated to BM for a while.
Interesting to hear whats going on at that fine marina in the west.
On the Jordan anchor question: presumably the "which anchor" question is best answered (avoided) by just using a length of chain
Interesting to hear whats going on at that fine marina in the west.
On the Jordan anchor question: presumably the "which anchor" question is best answered (avoided) by just using a length of chain
machurley22
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You have been busy.
Brilliant log of your 2010 cruise. Are you going to put it up here or make everyone go over to BM?
Brilliant log of your 2010 cruise. Are you going to put it up here or make everyone go over to BM?
Fascadale
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I think its more at home on BM
boatropes
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Agreed, one good authority on JSD (I wish I could find it now) has a drogue specification table arranged by boat displacement which only refers to 'weight' on the end of each rig, implying that an anchor is just one such possible weight. My choice might also be just chain because it would be much easier to stow and deploy. (perhaps even adding a few mackerel feathers - for celebrating survival of the storm with a freshly caught meal......)
VO5
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This thread has suddenly gone very quiet.
I have been studying the tonnages of (of the boats belonging to) contributors to this thread and in particular the defenders of theories and belief structures they seem to hold dear against the proponents of experience and reality structures.
I have discovered a curious anomaly.
The anomaly is that it is the owners of the smallest vessels, of 27 feet or so, are the most avidly entrenched in their beliefs.
Now isn't this a dangerous idea for smaller tonnage vessel owners to consider ? ...I mean, what have these poor little boats done to deserve that their owners should think about putting them through seas where bare poles and the spray cracking across like bullets and the surface covered with foam and spindrift and trailing drags should be considered ?
Surely to them a force 7 must seem like a 9 and an 8 like a 10 and God Forbid...a 10 must surely seem like an 11.
Would it not be more prudent to have a reality about size and capability and just conform to sailing on sunny days in flat water within sight of land, eh ?
I have been studying the tonnages of (of the boats belonging to) contributors to this thread and in particular the defenders of theories and belief structures they seem to hold dear against the proponents of experience and reality structures.
I have discovered a curious anomaly.
The anomaly is that it is the owners of the smallest vessels, of 27 feet or so, are the most avidly entrenched in their beliefs.
Now isn't this a dangerous idea for smaller tonnage vessel owners to consider ? ...I mean, what have these poor little boats done to deserve that their owners should think about putting them through seas where bare poles and the spray cracking across like bullets and the surface covered with foam and spindrift and trailing drags should be considered ?
Surely to them a force 7 must seem like a 9 and an 8 like a 10 and God Forbid...a 10 must surely seem like an 11.
Would it not be more prudent to have a reality about size and capability and just conform to sailing on sunny days in flat water within sight of land, eh ?
Conachair
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Oh, give it a rest.
If you want to have a dig at Webby why not just do it to his face.
If you want to have a dig at Webby why not just do it to his face.
VO5
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Give it a rest?
When these ideas are positively dangerous ?
You may not like to be told, but the reality of a little boat in a storm is horrific.
And with an aft cockpit and tiller steering to boot.
I'm not telling Webby anything, he is a big boy and has a commercial endorsement.
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Fascadale
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Would it not be more prudent to have a reality about size and capability and just conform to sailing on sunny days in flat water within sight of land, eh ?
Oh dear Mr 5
There you go again, letting yourself get distracted and letting your mind wander.
May I gently remind you that we here are discussing JSDs.
Would you like me to start a thead on your behalf where you can argue about appropriate boat sizes for bluewater sailing?
Perhaps you could run along and discuss your concerns here
VO5
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Seriously now, are you a participant in the Jester challenge ?
Conachair
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Another one on ignore.
Try it, it works well.
Try it, it works well.