jimi
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IR35 only cuts in if you are contractinting to a single client for > 2yrs
Jobs in the boating industry?
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Otto
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stingo: been audited by IR and outside IR35. It's all a matter of tact and having a real business.
Stingo
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maybe true for you, but not every contractor can service more than one client at a time and hence have a "real" business
lockwood
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I am not looking for work in sailing (although that would be bloody great), but since I have a lot of time on my hands recently i have been drawn to the water each day, and i can honestly say that I have nevr been happier.
If I can work on or near the water I will be happy. Scrubbing antifoul off a tired old yacht is more fun that being in the corporate rat race - believe me.
If I can work on or near the water I will be happy. Scrubbing antifoul off a tired old yacht is more fun that being in the corporate rat race - believe me.
StephenSails
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Thats a fair goal, I am happy with what I do. There are so many people that blow in to the business thinking boats=money and after a few months they blow away again. Its all about the quality of life if you ask me. That said, I am actually thinking about selling my business this year, will have to see what happens there.
StephenSails
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If I can work on or near the water I will be happy. Scrubbing antifoul off a tired old yacht is more fun that being in the corporate rat race - believe me.
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No its not, have done it for 4 years running until last year where I developed a severe alergy to it, including exzema all over my face!!! Now I generally stay away from antifoul if possible.
If I can work on or near the water I will be happy. Scrubbing antifoul off a tired old yacht is more fun that being in the corporate rat race - believe me.
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No its not, have done it for 4 years running until last year where I developed a severe alergy to it, including exzema all over my face!!! Now I generally stay away from antifoul if possible.
lockwood
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exzema on the face or bullshit in the ear. I prefer the exzema to be honest.
webcraft
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Thanks for the compliment Jim, but look at my own website and you have to agree that technically it is very basic.
I got the job instead of the locals because if I said the job would be done by noon tomorrow, it was done by noon the next day.
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John, this is a most encouraging post. Saying it will be done tomorrow and doing it is my speciality, so I can't wait to get South into the IT wilderness and hopefully top up the cruising kitty with some good old fashioned web design and IT consultancy.
Craig . . . the web design market is definitely saturated here . . . oversaturated in fact, and even the most reliable and experienced cannot make a decent living unless they are a household name.
As regards making a living sailing - if you have a YM with commercial endorsement you might get some skippered charter or delivery work - going rate is about £60 per day, which (considering it is a 24 hour responsibility) works out at £5 per hour, or minimum wage.
So - if you are sailing on a budget then sell your house and car and do some serious downsizing, sell the Jaguar and get a slightly bigger boat - or dream on . . .
- Nick
Thanks for the compliment Jim, but look at my own website and you have to agree that technically it is very basic.
I got the job instead of the locals because if I said the job would be done by noon tomorrow, it was done by noon the next day.
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John, this is a most encouraging post. Saying it will be done tomorrow and doing it is my speciality, so I can't wait to get South into the IT wilderness and hopefully top up the cruising kitty with some good old fashioned web design and IT consultancy.
Craig . . . the web design market is definitely saturated here . . . oversaturated in fact, and even the most reliable and experienced cannot make a decent living unless they are a household name.
As regards making a living sailing - if you have a YM with commercial endorsement you might get some skippered charter or delivery work - going rate is about £60 per day, which (considering it is a 24 hour responsibility) works out at £5 per hour, or minimum wage.
So - if you are sailing on a budget then sell your house and car and do some serious downsizing, sell the Jaguar and get a slightly bigger boat - or dream on . . .
- Nick
FullCircle
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John, I am falling in love with you, we are so compatible.
I just stopped being an Engineering Consultant and have taken a Programme Mangeys job in Automotive Plastics because I actually am better off. A first in 16-17 years. The overhead is punitive and they want to restrict your business runningexpenses to a percentage of your turnover! Eh???? If you cant satisfy 4 or 5 contracts simultaneously then you must be employed!
However, young lockwood, you must disabuse yourself of the notion that you need a mortgage and a car. I did without either for 8 years, blowing it on a wild sleigh ride enterprise which was fun. If you really want work, particularly abroad, its there for the taking. I just dont want to travel much anymore (having said that I spent 30 of the last 40 days in Europe).
Still, its paying for the new boat, so who cares? I am deliriously happy at this time.
I just stopped being an Engineering Consultant and have taken a Programme Mangeys job in Automotive Plastics because I actually am better off. A first in 16-17 years. The overhead is punitive and they want to restrict your business runningexpenses to a percentage of your turnover! Eh???? If you cant satisfy 4 or 5 contracts simultaneously then you must be employed!
However, young lockwood, you must disabuse yourself of the notion that you need a mortgage and a car. I did without either for 8 years, blowing it on a wild sleigh ride enterprise which was fun. If you really want work, particularly abroad, its there for the taking. I just dont want to travel much anymore (having said that I spent 30 of the last 40 days in Europe).
Still, its paying for the new boat, so who cares? I am deliriously happy at this time.
StephenSails
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Try it, you would soon prefer web design I can assure you.
StellaGirl
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Stephen is right. I gave up my very well paid job in 2003 to be near and on the water. I sailed the Atlantic and spent some time in the Carribean. You could get a job on a boat out there and in the Med in the summer. You need your STW95 cert for most decent boats though and that costs about £700 to do. I have a friend who did the 2003/4 season on a Swan 77 and earned about $2500 a month, working 16 hours days. Sounds glamarous but it isnt!
I am now working in the marine industry, and also have my own marine services company (based South Coast so loads of clients!) but still dont have a huge amount of money once the mortgage, council tax, gas, electricity, water....etc is paid.
Hes also right about the anti fouling.... /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
I am now working in the marine industry, and also have my own marine services company (based South Coast so loads of clients!) but still dont have a huge amount of money once the mortgage, council tax, gas, electricity, water....etc is paid.
Hes also right about the anti fouling.... /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Thistle
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There is no real money in the marine industry ...
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Looking at the prices they charge, the swindleries can't be doing too badly.
There is no real money in the marine industry ...
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Looking at the prices they charge, the swindleries can't be doing too badly.
StephenSails
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You would be even more surprised what the suppliers and manufacturers charge the chandleries for the kit! There is also a certain amount of price fixing going on with the industry.
Pie
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Web design and sailing in my experience don't mix /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif.
I work as a freelancer web developer/designer and I did have a job to test an online content management system whilst crossing the Atlantic in a Sigma 41 (link ). Keeping up with professional obligations whilst sailing was a real pain in the ****.
I much prefer earning as a Web designer at home in a control environment and keeping sailing for fun.
I work as a freelancer web developer/designer and I did have a job to test an online content management system whilst crossing the Atlantic in a Sigma 41 (link ). Keeping up with professional obligations whilst sailing was a real pain in the ****.
I much prefer earning as a Web designer at home in a control environment and keeping sailing for fun.
webcraft
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Re: Web design afloat
You were a bit ambitious . . .
I think Stingo was talking about knocking up a small site while in port, then moving on.
- Nick
You were a bit ambitious . . .
I think Stingo was talking about knocking up a small site while in port, then moving on.
- Nick
John_Lana
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Re: Web design afloat
There are many ways to earn a living in the marine industry. Right now I am being handsomely paid to sit on a boat in Grenada for my day off. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Sometimes it is hard work but sometimes it is fun too, and the best part is I get paid every day..... and today is fun /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
If you really have the wish to go sailing, get your STCW certificate and if possible at least a day skipper certificate - working as a deckhand will net you at least 500 dollars a week, with all your living expenses paid..... Whilst a deckhand's work is not all that glamorous and can be hard work, on the right boat you can log ten or fifteen thousand miles in a year, and gain lots of experience for your Yachtmaster and eventually Class IV.
John
There are many ways to earn a living in the marine industry. Right now I am being handsomely paid to sit on a boat in Grenada for my day off. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Sometimes it is hard work but sometimes it is fun too, and the best part is I get paid every day..... and today is fun /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
If you really have the wish to go sailing, get your STCW certificate and if possible at least a day skipper certificate - working as a deckhand will net you at least 500 dollars a week, with all your living expenses paid..... Whilst a deckhand's work is not all that glamorous and can be hard work, on the right boat you can log ten or fifteen thousand miles in a year, and gain lots of experience for your Yachtmaster and eventually Class IV.
John
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I work as a freelancer web developer/designer
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How many web site designers are there on Scuttlebutt? I fear a WebDesigner event horizon might form any moment.
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I work as a freelancer web developer/designer
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How many web site designers are there on Scuttlebutt? I fear a WebDesigner event horizon might form any moment.
thomas1
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Looks like the same bug flew across the severn and bit me, I have been looking at devon sailing and all aboard to to yacht master plenty of work for the right people, came there replys not much in the way of pay though, I am a small builder and am getting fed up with the telephone calls to ask when are you going to start my work ! again not much pay seems country is going down hill very fast plenty of work not much money to pay for the work what are your veiws on fastrack