Jaguar 22 - any good?

[moondancer]

Whilst the Jag 21 was a fresh design with a dagger lifting keel that sailed very well, the Jag 22, IIRC, was actually a USA designed Catalina built under license by Jaguar on Canvey. From talking to them a long time ago one of the problems was that the original design assumption was that the boat would be mainly used on the fresh water lakes and wouldn't really be used as a sea boat.

Use at sea caused corrosion issues on the swing keel mechanism that caused failure if not maintained and various bolts regularly replaced.

I remember on my first sailing boat kept on a drying pontoon at Great Wakering the chap next to me lost his keel in the mud at Wakering. He waded out at low tide and managed to retrieve it. He told me it didn't sail very well either.

 

[Ecosse120]

I have an e-boat which has a llifting keel and she sits on the mud twice a day. The keel goes up and down on an electric winch and only sticks out by about 6 inchs when fully up. The mast is quite easy to be put up/down by two people. She is also quick for a 30+ year old boat. The only drawback is headroom, 4 good berths but no standing room at all. They also tend to be relatively cheap £2,500-3,500 for a reasonable one. No mine isn't for sale !

 

[Jancacique]

Re: jag

I bought a Jaguar 22 swing keel a year ago. I made a keel-supporting-box fixed to a small 6x4 trailer which I raised up to the keel, I single-handedly removed and refitted the quarter ton keel over winter to check the keel pivot pin hole for wear, a common problem in these very old Jaguars. The lateral movement / banging at high Water was the clue. I read that when changing tack if there is a clunk then that also indicates keel wear around the pivot pin hole. Catalina Direct in America supply all parts for these amazingly popular yachts which is a clue to how absolutely brilliant they are. I made cradles which supported the boat high enough off the ground. These swing keel boats are perfect for the east coast and for touching any sandbanks and they do not fill the cabin like lifting keels do.

 

[TQA]

Re: jag

I had one for three years. Swing keel variant. Great little boat. Sailed it round the Solent and Rutland water first year. Troon to Stornoway and back next. Pula to Albania and back in the third year.

Mine came with 4 head sails and it did need the right one up when going upwind.

If you plan on towing any distance the 4 wheel trailer is better.

 

[Lucky Duck]

Re: jag

I'd imagine that as three years have passed the OP will have made some kind of decision a while back

 

[Laurie]

Re: jag

Anyone wanting info. on the J22, I still hold some articles as founder and ex administrator of the Owners Assoc.....and as an ex owner.

Feel fee to email me on laurie@lmilton.co.uk

 

[Laurie]

Re: jag

I bought a Jaguar 22 swing keel a year ago. I made a keel-supporting-box fixed to a small 6x4 trailer which I raised up to the keel, I single-handedly removed and refitted the quarter ton keel over winter to check the keel pivot pin hole for wear, a common problem in these very old Jaguars. The lateral movement / banging at high Water was the clue. I read that when changing tack if there is a clunk then that also indicates keel wear around the pivot pin hole. Catalina Direct in America supply all parts for these amazingly popular yachts which is a clue to how absolutely brilliant they are. I made cradles which supported the boat high enough off the ground. These swing keel boats are perfect for the east coast and for touching any sandbanks and they do not fill the cabin like lifting keels do.

.... amongst which, I also have articles and drawings for this, should anyone wish.

 

[Tammany]

Re: jag

It's a Jaguar 25 that started off my passion of getting a cruising yacht. Reading a yachting world magazine in a doctors surgery mid 1990's and they did a feature on one. One of my customers owns Jaguar Yachts, well the name anyways as they closed many years ago. I don't think he has the molds though?

 

[Saguday]

Re: jag

There is a tidy little Jag 25 for sale 3 berths up from us at Tollesbury if that's of any interest.

 

[Laurie]

Re: jag

It's a Jaguar 25 that started off my passion of getting a cruising yacht. Reading a yachting world magazine in a doctors surgery mid 1990's and they did a feature on one. One of m customers owns Jaguar Yachts, well the name anyways as they closed many years ago. I don't think he has the molds though?

If it's who I think....he built a modified 21 (so he had A mould?), the 215, and I was one of the first to review it. Plans were afoot with his then business partner for a new range of Jaguars, the next being the modified 265/Sunset 270, but getting the mould from Earls Colne/ Colvic was proving difficult.................................

 

[Tammany]

Re: jag

If it's who I think....he built a modified 21 (so he had A mould?), the 215, and I was one of the first to review it. Plans were afoot with his then business partner for a new range of Jaguars, the next being the modified 265/Sunset 270, but getting the mould from Earls Colne/ Colvic was proving difficult.................................

Paul Randall, nice chap. Often stand and speak with him about various boat things. Just found this, and yes that's him. How long ago was this review as he hasn't changed much.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/westgatefamily/215review.htm