JABSCO Quiet flush electric toilet

[nicho]

Went to check the boat today (Sealine S34) after three weeks. All OK, except the JABSCO Quiet Flush toilet bowl was full of fresh water - it is fed from the water tank. All seacocks were closed, and the 12v water pump was off. I had taken the pressure off the taps to help guard against frost damage, otherwise left a normal. Any thoughts if this could be a one off, with say a sticking valve? Having emptied the bowl, it did not seem to be filling, but it might just be a slow process. Any thoughts welcomed please, Tia.

 

[Fire99]

Went to check the boat today (Sealine S34) after three weeks. All OK, except the JABSCO Quiet Flush toilet bowl was full of fresh water - it is fed from the water tank. All seacocks were closed, and the 12v water pump was off. I had taken the pressure off the taps to help guard against frost damage, otherwise left a normal. Any thoughts if this could be a one off, with say a sticking valve? Having emptied the bowl, it did not seem to be filling, but it might just be a slow process. Any thoughts welcomed please, Tia.

Is it definitely fresh water from the filling supply and not the waste water backing up back into the bowl? Before I replaced the joker valve mine tended to back up from water in the waste pipe.

 

[nicho]

Is it definitely fresh water from the filling supply and not the waste water backing up back into the bowl? Before I replaced the joker valve mine tended to back up from water in the waste pipe.

Thanks for responding, but it’s definitely clean fresh water from the on board tank - this is an electric flush toilet. I wondered if it might be a solenoid operated valve sticking?

 

[Fire99]

Thanks for responding, but it’s definitely clean fresh water from the on board tank - this is an electric flush toilet. I wondered if it might be a solenoid operated valve sticking?

I have Jabsco electric toilets too. If it's fresh water then I can't think of anything other than the fill solenoid sticking open.

 

[nicho]

I have Jabsco electric toilets too. If it's fresh water then I can't think of anything other than the fill solenoid sticking open.

Thanks, I’ll take a loser look

 

[PaulRainbow]

Thanks, I’ll take a loser look

I had one stick open, took it apart and cleaned it, worked ok since. A bit scary, as 400 litres of fresh water in the heads wouldn't be good. I'm going to convert to sea water flush anyway, fresh water flushing uses too much of our potable water.

 

[nicho]

I had one stick open, took it apart and cleaned it, worked ok since. A bit scary, as 400 litres of fresh water in the heads wouldn't be good. I'm going to convert to sea water flush anyway, fresh water flushing uses too much of our potable water.

Sorry Paul, but can you please advise if this solenoid is part of the actual toilet (ie in the pump area) or located remotely. Boat’s 150 miles away, or I would take a look. Thanks

 

[PaulRainbow]

Sorry Paul, but can you please advise if this solenoid is part of the actual toilet (ie in the pump area) or located remotely. Boat’s 150 miles away, or I would take a look. Thanks

No problem. It's located remotely. Mine is in the cupboard under the heads sink.

You're looking for one of these:

 

[nicho]

No problem. It's located remotely. Mine is in the cupboard under the heads sink.

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Brilliant, thanks for the information?

 

[Fire99]

No problem. It's located remotely. Mine is in the cupboard under the heads sink.

You're looking for one of these:

Yup. Mine is exactly the same. In the heads compartment mine is in the cupboard under the sink.
You can't miss it because you can see the relatively narrow fresh water hoses connecting to it and it'll have an electrical cable going to it from the toilet operation switch, so chances are they won't be too far from eachother.

 

[nicho]

Yup. Mine is exactly the same. In the heads compartment mine is in the cupboard under the sink.
You can't miss it because you can see the relatively narrow fresh water hoses connecting to it and it'll have an electrical cable going to it from the toilet operation switch, so chances are they won't be too far from eachother.

Thanks.

 

[n.herring]

I had one stick open, took it apart and cleaned it, worked ok since. A bit scary, as 400 litres of fresh water in the heads wouldn't be good. I'm going to convert to sea water flush anyway, fresh water flushing uses too much of our potable water.

Don't do it, they use very little water and the stink from sea water that sits in the inlet pipe is horrible.

For the OP it's probably the joker valve, there is always clean water sitting in outlet pipe after flushing, mine always let water back into the bowl. I have same quiet flush although I think Jabsco should be done under the trades description act as quiet they certainly are not.

 

[Shifty]

Agreed stick with the freshwater flush, the awful smell isn’t worth the small amount of water used from the tank. Also I imagine not a cheap option once you take into account the work involved including a new seacock etc.

 

[nicho]

Agreed stick with the freshwater flush, the awful smell isn’t worth the small amount of water used from the tank. Also I imagine not a cheap option once you take into account the work involved including a new seacock etc.

Agreed, the lack of the smell after a period of non use is most welcome after years of putting up with it.

 

[nicho]

Don't do it, they use very little water and the stink from sea water that sits in the inlet pipe is horrible.

For the OP it's probably the joker valve, there is always clean water sitting in outlet pipe after flushing, mine always let water back into the bowl. I have same quiet flush although I think Jabsco should be done under the trades description act as quiet they certainly are not.

Could it be the joker valve though? After flushing, there has always been a little freshwater added, but in this case, the sea cocks were both closed, and the diverted switch to the sea outlet. The water in the bowl was full and literally 1” from overflowing, and it was not sea water I’m hoping that having flushed it several times with clean freshwater, it might have cleared the problem after little use for the past three months. I’ll check again over the weekend with another 280 mile round trip!

 

[PaulRainbow]

Don't do it, they use very little water and the stink from sea water that sits in the inlet pipe is horrible.

You only get the smell after the boat has been unattended for a while, but we live aboard.

For the OP it's probably the joker valve, there is always clean water sitting in outlet pipe after flushing, mine always let water back into the bowl. I have same quiet flush although I think Jabsco should be done under the trades description act as quiet they certainly are not.

Can't see how the joker valve could fill the bowl with fresh water. It's there to keep some water in the bowl, although ours emptied in 30 seconds, even with new joker valves. Yours must be setup different to mine, my toilet is above the waterline and obviously above the seacock, so even without a joker valve nothing can get back into the bowl.

 

[PaulRainbow]

Agreed stick with the freshwater flush, the awful smell isn’t worth the small amount of water used from the tank. Also I imagine not a cheap option once you take into account the work involved including a new seacock etc.

As i said, we live aboard, so we won't get the smell.

Not too much of a job, the seacocks are already there, seems Princess fitted them standard, whichever toilet option was fitted. I'll have to fit a pump, but that's no dearer than the solenoid valve (if/when it needed changing). I picked a couple of Whale pumps up from Ebay and i guess the solenoid valves will recover most of that cost.

 

[Zing]

There’s another reason to go for fresh water and that is leaks. Those Jabsco Quiet flush toilets will leak sooner or later, more likely sooner and you don’t want dribbles of seawater anywhere inside a boat. I’m changing mine to fresh (and upgrading to a better loo) and I mostly live-aboard.

The Planus Match toilet uses 1.5lts of water per flush and just for those that like trivia; as my water is effectively made from diesel from the genset via a watermaker it translates to about 1.25cc of diesel per flush.

 

[PaulRainbow]

There’s another reason to go for fresh water and that is leaks. Those Jabsco Quiet flush toilets will leak sooner or later, more likely sooner and you don’t want dribbles of seawater anywhere inside a boat. I’m changing mine to fresh (and upgrading to a better loo) and I mostly live-aboard.

The Planus Match toilet uses 1.5lts of water per flush and just for those that like trivia; as my water is effectively made from diesel from the genset via a watermaker it translates to about 1.25cc of diesel per flush.

Why not just fix the leak ?

Personally, i don't want any water leaking into my boat.

 

[Zing]

Why not just fix the leak ?

Personally, i don't want any water leaking into my boat.

Done obviously, then it leaks again after not a long time. Other loos are better and very rarely leak and if it’s a water leak a dribble of fresh doesn’t hurt, but salt is very destructive.

Another reason to change: the Quietflush are not quiet.