colhel
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I've been on a few boats of varying sizes and most have one thing in common, folding bikes in a bedroom.
I've got too much stuff.
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Sticky Fingers
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So after my first proper day and much experimentation I've got an update for anyone that's interested...
There is nowhere to store the fenders that is operationally and aesthetically acceptable. Baskets will obscure the view fwd, OR block the side decks; lockers are too small; no lazarette; anchor locker would hold a british standard squirrel, or a slippery otter at a push. More thought needed.
I've decided to sell the tender and (per my 'Recommend me a small rib' thread) get something better but the width of the swim platform is an issue. Elessar suggested mounting the chocks on lateral sliders or runners, so it can be pushed to port or stbd as needed for access / boarding. Brilliant idea, so looking into that.
Hosepipe, collapsible one purchased which fits in a very small bag. Perfect. The boat hose has been redeployed to the garden and the head gardener aka Mrs Scala is delighted with it, so that's a bonus brownie point. Also saves me 100 quid for the new garden hose that was 'needed'.
Boathook - the idea of clipping to the underside of the hardtop is perfect so thanks to jrudge for that
I'm resigned to keeping pilot books etc in a locker in the saloon as I no longer have a chart table.
And, toolkit... there are some useful storage voids under the saloon sole that might suit if I can be certain they'll stay dry. Or underneath the bed in the bow cabin.
There is nowhere to store the fenders that is operationally and aesthetically acceptable. Baskets will obscure the view fwd, OR block the side decks; lockers are too small; no lazarette; anchor locker would hold a british standard squirrel, or a slippery otter at a push. More thought needed.
I've decided to sell the tender and (per my 'Recommend me a small rib' thread) get something better but the width of the swim platform is an issue. Elessar suggested mounting the chocks on lateral sliders or runners, so it can be pushed to port or stbd as needed for access / boarding. Brilliant idea, so looking into that.
Hosepipe, collapsible one purchased which fits in a very small bag. Perfect. The boat hose has been redeployed to the garden and the head gardener aka Mrs Scala is delighted with it, so that's a bonus brownie point. Also saves me 100 quid for the new garden hose that was 'needed'.
Boathook - the idea of clipping to the underside of the hardtop is perfect so thanks to jrudge for that
I'm resigned to keeping pilot books etc in a locker in the saloon as I no longer have a chart table.
And, toolkit... there are some useful storage voids under the saloon sole that might suit if I can be certain they'll stay dry. Or underneath the bed in the bow cabin.
BruceK
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Fender baskets hang outside the rails not inside. They should not be impeding your passage
Greg2
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I see how that makes sense on one level but I would never put fender baskets on the outside of the rails because they create a hazard when mooring, rafting, going through locks etc. I guess perhaps not an issue for boating in the Welsh Med but wouldn’t work for the cruising we do.
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BruceK
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Rafting?! That's taking ghetto living to the extreme. No we dont raft, we got a zillion acres of ocean to throw the hook out. Anyway, the fender baskets dont fit inside the rails, and the flair of the rubbing strip is inline with the baskets. Rafting?! How very rude!
i.e. the rubbing strip is wider than the basket overhang
i.e. the rubbing strip is wider than the basket overhang
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Greg2
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I guess boat design makes a difference......as well as a healthy aversion to ‘ghetto living’ ?
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BruceK
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Ya no, we dont subscribe to that either. That's Roy's dirty little dalliance and although we put up with him he's not Welsh. 
Momac
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Did you buy the boat without viewing it ?
Sticky Fingers
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No not at all. I knew what I was doing. But for sure, I didn't think about where I'd put the boathook or the fenders for that matter...
Obviously you can't really load all your stuff from the yacht (42') to test it out on the similar size replacement (44'), but as any ex-owner of a yacht that size may know, there's generally a lot more living space and storage in it than a mobo of the same kinda length (exceptions may apply).
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Elessar
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So after my first proper day and much experimentation I've got an update for anyone that's interested...
There is nowhere to store the fenders that is operationally and aesthetically acceptable. Baskets will obscure the view fwd, OR block the side decks; lockers are too small; no lazarette; anchor locker would hold a british standard squirrel, or a slippery otter at a push. More thought needed.
I've decided to sell the tender and (per my 'Recommend me a small rib' thread) get something better but the width of the swim platform is an issue. Elessar suggested mounting the chocks on lateral sliders or runners, so it can be pushed to port or stbd as needed for access / boarding. Brilliant idea, so looking into that.
Hosepipe, collapsible one purchased which fits in a very small bag. Perfect. The boat hose has been redeployed to the garden and the head gardener aka Mrs Scala is delighted with it, so that's a bonus brownie point. Also saves me 100 quid for the new garden hose that was 'needed'.
Boathook - the idea of clipping to the underside of the hardtop is perfect so thanks to jrudge for that
I'm resigned to keeping pilot books etc in a locker in the saloon as I no longer have a chart table.
And, toolkit... there are some useful storage voids under the saloon sole that might suit if I can be certain they'll stay dry. Or underneath the bed in the bow cabin.
or for the tools maybe make racks outboard of the engine in your palatial engine bay.
Sticky Fingers
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Yes that's an option too of course.
Momac
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If you are used to a yacht I do get the reluctance to keep fenders on the side decks .
But on a motorboat that's not an issue as once under way you shouldn't need to access the side decks in a hurry.
It does sound like the design in your case is given to interior space at the expense of storage .
But on a motorboat that's not an issue as once under way you shouldn't need to access the side decks in a hurry.
It does sound like the design in your case is given to interior space at the expense of storage .
Sticky Fingers
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Fair point, it seems normal practice.
Yes that's true to a point. There's plenty in the saloon and cabins, galley a bit less so but OK. It's cockpit storage that's more limited, especially the loss of the lazarette and the colossal cockpit locker I had (more like another cabin in size). As Elessar remarks above, there is also scope in the engine bay.
tico
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Fender baskets mounted on the transom?
Sticky Fingers
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There's no rail. The aft end of the cockpit has a seat back, and the hatch to a slim low locker...:
Kawasaki
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Yeh, I,ve looked at all your boat pictures and the same on the 'Net' Looks like you will have to rely on your Yachty knot skills and just tie them off on the Ralis forward. If fender baskets up front are a problem.
It seems they need to be 'to hand' whilst you are getting used to close quarters handling anyway!!!
It seems they need to be 'to hand' whilst you are getting used to close quarters handling anyway!!!
Sticky Fingers
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Well, I'm not talking about leaving deployment until after I've parked... although I have witnessed someone in Palmizana parking a huge Azimut do exactly that. Reverse down the (very narrow) aisle; stop; rotate; reverse into berth. Totty steps off with stern lines. Matey secures lazy line. Then, and only then, she puts fenders out.
Sticky Fingers
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Elessar has described this tiny dark space as 'palatial'. I probably need a vocab reset.
Elessar
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You can get all round both your engines without using knees or elbows and with just a stoop of the head.
Many require a contortionist elf. Yours is definitely palatial.
Sticky Fingers
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So I understand! One of the used boats I looked at had twin 8.3L Cummins. To get into the engine bay, empty the lazarette, remove a 18" square vertical hatch in the lazarette fwd bulkhead and bend double to squeeze in. Utterly impossible. And no access from the other end or above at all. So it's definitely better than that.