peterjaw
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Exactly.
Actually I am just a armature angler, as long as there is a rod holder then I am good.
It's about time to survey the next boat. I need recommendations.
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Actually I am just a armature angler, as long as there is a rod holder then I am good.
peterjaw
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Ni Hao, Tico,
I don't really expect to receive any service from dealers, so it is OK for the dealer is about 200 KM from me.
As I mentioned earlier, all dealers in Taiwan are "Account Receivable Department" to me. I would rather approach local shops near my marina.
peterjaw
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What if I eliminate the CAT engines?I can’t beat 19?
I’m really stuck at Caterpillar engines. I think American boats are the only option, almost every European boat has Volvo’s.????
You are right, almost every European boat uses Volvo engines. In Taiwan, CAT provides the best service, that is why I prefer to have CAT engine.
peterjaw
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Thank you very much captains.
If you think any of my criteria is unreal, unreasonable, or even contradictory, such as comfortable vs. semi-displacement, please feel free to
let me know, or make a correction.
When I say "prefer" that means good-to-have, not necessary. I understand that there are some compromises when picking up a boat.
Please continue to provide me some hints, recommendations. Thank you very much.
If you think any of my criteria is unreal, unreasonable, or even contradictory, such as comfortable vs. semi-displacement, please feel free to
let me know, or make a correction.
When I say "prefer" that means good-to-have, not necessary. I understand that there are some compromises when picking up a boat.
Please continue to provide me some hints, recommendations. Thank you very much.
mcanderson
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I wish you luck in such a small market without having to import something.
You mentioned a few brands, Bavaria, Jeanneau, Beneteau. None of these will come with shafts and non will come with anything apart from Volvos on outdrives. The newer model Prestige 42O has cummins engines on outdrives.
Bavaria here for an example - 2019 Bavaria S45 Hard Top Power New and Used Boats for Sale
Prestige here Jeanneau Prestige 420 Motorboat for Sale - Boats24.com
Beneteau here 2011 Beneteau Monte Carlo 42 Power New and Used Boats for Sale
You mentioned a few brands, Bavaria, Jeanneau, Beneteau. None of these will come with shafts and non will come with anything apart from Volvos on outdrives. The newer model Prestige 42O has cummins engines on outdrives.
Bavaria here for an example - 2019 Bavaria S45 Hard Top Power New and Used Boats for Sale
Prestige here Jeanneau Prestige 420 Motorboat for Sale - Boats24.com
Beneteau here 2011 Beneteau Monte Carlo 42 Power New and Used Boats for Sale
Sticky Fingers
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I think the OP wants to buy new?
peterjaw
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Yes, I prefer to buy new because :
1. Limit the range of selection.
2. It is almost impossible for me to hire a surveyor from the other side of earth.
3. Although not 100% guaranteed, but at least I can have some worry-free years (hopefully).
Sticky Fingers
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Ok. The Caterpillar requirement leads you away from European boats, although Scandinavian meet a lot of your other needs. Something that might suit with a local dealer in your area, Nimbus 405 Coupe. Has Volvos though.
405 Coupé the flagship has arrived
The D6 version of this boat meets all of these needs except the Cat engines. Have to check local dealer for Volco servicing and support, but there is a dealer near you. Also check local market spec for 110V / 60Hz electrics.
Usage:
1. Angling for couple hours.1 or 2 person. (60% of usage)
2. Couple hours of anchorge in a small bay. Mostly 4 or 5 persons, at most 7 persons. (40% of usage)
3. The longest non-stop cruise is 2 days (1 night) with 6 ~ 7 persons on board.
4. No live aboard requirement.
Interior/Exterior:
1. 2 rooms with doors.
2. 1 head with separate shower is preferred.
3. Aft galley is preferred.
4. Prefer to have interior be as simple/elegent as possible. No need bulky sofa, huge dinnet area...
5. Sunbathing is not needed.
6. Fully enclosed cabin for escaping from sudden storm/rain.
7. Need a side door for helm station.
8. Eay access to engine services.
Technical Specification:
1. No IPS.
2. Shaft drive is preferred.
3. Ideal boat length is between 38 ~ 44 feet.
4. Prefer NOT to have a fly bridge.
5. Cruising speed around 20 ~ 22 knots. WOT around 30 knots.
6. Maximum Cruise range: 250 nm. with build-in tank.
7. Prefer to have CAT engine.
8. 110V/60Hz power system needed.
9. As comfort as possible in rough conditions.
405 Coupé the flagship has arrived
The D6 version of this boat meets all of these needs except the Cat engines. Have to check local dealer for Volco servicing and support, but there is a dealer near you. Also check local market spec for 110V / 60Hz electrics.
Usage:
1. Angling for couple hours.1 or 2 person. (60% of usage)
2. Couple hours of anchorge in a small bay. Mostly 4 or 5 persons, at most 7 persons. (40% of usage)
3. The longest non-stop cruise is 2 days (1 night) with 6 ~ 7 persons on board.
4. No live aboard requirement.
Interior/Exterior:
1. 2 rooms with doors.
2. 1 head with separate shower is preferred.
3. Aft galley is preferred.
4. Prefer to have interior be as simple/elegent as possible. No need bulky sofa, huge dinnet area...
5. Sunbathing is not needed.
6. Fully enclosed cabin for escaping from sudden storm/rain.
7. Need a side door for helm station.
8. Eay access to engine services.
Technical Specification:
1. No IPS.
2. Shaft drive is preferred.
3. Ideal boat length is between 38 ~ 44 feet.
4. Prefer NOT to have a fly bridge.
5. Cruising speed around 20 ~ 22 knots. WOT around 30 knots.
6. Maximum Cruise range: 250 nm. with build-in tank.
7. Prefer to have CAT engine.
8. 110V/60Hz power system needed.
9. As comfort as possible in rough conditions.
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Whippersnapper
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Scala I like the Nimbus too but maybe a it slow With semi displacement hull? Marex 375 had always appealed to me. Full planing hull, shaft drive, galley up
Whippersnapper
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Peter the newest 420 is shaft drive with Cummins engines
Sticky Fingers
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Sticky Fingers
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Correct, the fly version of that boat was reviewed in MBY recently. Cummins engines very good by all accounts, lots of torque.
Whippersnapper
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I stand corrected, I had forgotten you could get D6s in the 405
peterjaw
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Great, now I have Nimbus 405 and Prestige 420 on the list.
Thank you very much guys.
Thank you very much guys.
peterjaw
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It seems the preference for CAT engine limits the scope way too much.
How about adding Cummins and Yanmar engines?
By the way, I can't edit the original post, so I put this here.
How about adding Cummins and Yanmar engines?
By the way, I can't edit the original post, so I put this here.
Whippersnapper
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The prestige 420has Cummins
mcanderson
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How about the Beneteau Swift trawler 41 sedan? No flybridge, on shafts, but Volvo Engines - Swift trawler 41 Sedan - Motorboats For Sale | BENETEAU
gordmac
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Will you get the speed with shafts? Fuel burn would be pretty high I would imagine. One of the larger Botnia Targas would do a lot of what you want. What about a Rodman?
peterjaw
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Yes, the Swift Trawler 41 sedan is on my list.
peterjaw
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For escaping from the sudden weather change, I need at least 22 ~ 25 knot. My current boat can reach 30 knot easily and
did help me a lot. That is why I would like (prefer) to keep this feature. The speed is just for escaping, not for long cruise.
I have no idea about Botnia Targas and Rodman. I will take a look at these 2 brands.
Thank you very much.