oldgit
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Would find it most useful if those issuing helpful suggestions regarding matters of education etc could perhaps indicate what they did regards their own offspring.
Would find it most useful if those issuing helpful suggestions regarding matters of education etc could perhaps indicate what they did regards their own offspring.
I see that the case just came before the Supreme Court - what we used to call the Law Lords. The IOW magistrates had acquitted the Dad, Jonathon Platt, of allowing his child to fail to attend school regularly. They'd done so because, although he had pulled her out of school to attend a 10-day holiday in term time, her attendance over the longer period of the school year was in the 'satisfactory' range of 90-95%. The magistrates allowed an appeal on the question of whether they had erred at law in considering the wider period in determining whether the girl's attendance had been 'regular'.
It went all the way to the Supreme Court. Well IOW taxpayers have to pay their taxes for something.
The Supreme Court just ruled that 'The magistrates did not err in law in taking into account attendance outside the offence dates 13 April to 24 April 2015 as particularised in the summons when determining the percentage attendance of the child.'
Ruling in the link on this page: https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/uksc-2016-0155.html
He's got a page on his company website here [ http://www.jmppartnership.com/school-fines-parents-must-decide/ ] but hasn't yet had time to update it following the favourable Supreme Court ruling.
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Yep, as I thought, selfish as it's possible to be, and a total ignorance of how holiday economy areas work.
It's not a question of being able to afford holidays, it's the fact that is the family is working to keep their business going because their clientele are holidaymakers, then going away during that period isn't an option.
Or maybe their parents work in services needed to keep the influx of holidaymakers safe.
What children do and when they do it is the parents' responsibility, children are not the property of the state. With attitudes like yours, no wonder home schooling is growing.
I think Channelyacht makes a very valid point here.
In tourist/holiday destinations, a lot of adults HAVE to work during the Easter/Spring/Summer/Christmas holidays as it's when they make the majority of their money, which sees them through the low season. So the option of taking a holiday during the school holidays simply isn't there for them.
Maybe the government and local councils should be more aware of this and either alter terms times to suit, or be a little more flexible about it.
I think Channelyacht makes a very valid point here.
In tourist/holiday destinations, a lot of adults HAVE to work during the Easter/Spring/Summer/Christmas holidays as it's when they make the majority of their money, which sees them through the low season. So the option of taking a holiday during the school holidays simply isn't there for them.
Maybe the government and local councils should be more aware of this and either alter terms times to suit, or be a little more flexible about it.
Then they would have to move their work time to match the revised holiday period !!!!
Not if there holiday period was only a little bit out. SO main school summer holiday from say 1st July to Mid August. That gives the locals 3-4 weeks to go before the rest of the country kicks in at the end of July.
The Supreme Court just ruled that 'The magistrates did not err in law in taking into account attendance outside the offence dates 13 April to 24 April 2015 as particularised in the summons when determining the percentage attendance of the child.'
Ruling in the link on this page: https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/uksc-2016-0155.html
The Supreme Court has not issued its decision. That quote is from the High Court ruling on the council's appeal of the magistrates' decision. You'll see that the link is shown as "Judgment appealed"
I'm sorry; you're right of course. I stand corrected! About time for them to make their decision; the case hit the Supreme Court at the end of January. I look forward to seeing it.
Apologies for my mistake
But when do older kids do exams?
When you want them to go on holiday i suspect
It all gets very messy & no one will be satisfied
Looks like the Supreme Court has unanimously ruled that UK parents can indeed be prosecuted for taking their children out of school during term time.
English parents. As far as I can see, the ruling only applies to England but in any case the system is different up here in Scotland, where head teachers can still exercise their discretion.
Yes, well spotted. As I understand it English head teachers can also exercise their discretion, but that parents cannot take a unilateral decision. Mind you a £60 fine to save say £600+ on a holiday has got to be a bargain! .