Is there a better or more sought after than a decent 2 stroke 6/8hp Yamaha

[rafiki_]

I'm really struggling with the notion that there is a different emission compliance regulation for commercial or non-commercial use. Possible this is one for Latestarter1?

 

[BruceK]

Not sure about compliance but it's something to do with "Still sell 2 stroke outboard engines to this day for commercial and racing use" and available through a dealer.

Maybe we should start a tender racing club?

 

[QBhoy]

I read a lot of great reports about the thohatsu 9.8, but will it last as long as these Yamahas ? Time will tell.
The fact is that there are still plenty of 6 and 8 hp yams from the 70's in frequent use today.
As there are evenrude and Johnstone...to a lesser extent.
My feeling is that in general any of these 2 stroke 2 cylinder engines of that kind of size are superb. There is no way the newer 4 strokes can compete and will. Ever last as long.
They are dropping weight recently, but at the cost of refinement and no doubt reliability.
6hp 2 cylinder super powerful and smooth 2 stroke or a single cylinder lumpy and painful to the ear modern 4 stroke ? It's a no brainer, if you are lucky enough to have the choice.

 

[rafiki_]

It doesn't say they are legal. I have not come across a different compliance reg category for racing or commercial. With vehicles there were differing regs for weight of vehicle, but these are now converging. RCD boat regs only make a differentiation between inland or coastal waters to my knowledge. Could be wrong though.

 

[BruceK]

I'm not quite following either but it is what it is. Owning and using a two stroke isn't illegal, at least I hope not for I am. Either way in the small fast fisher scene they appear to be getting their hands on them with regular ease. And they are quite cheap which is the real kicker. ~1.2k ex VAT

 

[Firefly625]

of course if you want a new small 2 stroke outboard you could always get one of these......

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-OUTBO...id=100005&rk=6&rkt=6&mehot=pp&sd=112234879037

worse case scenario it would be a good spare engine for your strimmer or leaf blower!

would love someone to buy one and do a product report.

 

[dave p]

I got the posh 90's 2 stroke 8hp yam as it got a starter motor and charging point

 

[No Regrets]

In reality, a good four stroke is perfectly acceptable, sweeter running and nowadays no aggro...

 

[neale]

In reality, a good four stroke is perfectly acceptable, sweeter running and nowadays no aggro...

Agree, apart from the weight aspect. Personally I think the "ban" of old two stroke tech should have excluded portable motors, say under 10hp.

 

[[2068]]

Not wishing to get this thread sinbinned into the Brexit bucket, but the EU ban isn't going to apply much longer.
In the mean time, I don't see why you can't start your own not-very-successful fishing charter business.

 

[rafiki_]

Not wishing to get this thread sinbinned into the Brexit bucket, but the EU ban isn't going to apply much longer.
In the mean time, I don't see why you can't start your own not-very-successful fishing charter business.

See #5 David

 

[[2068]]

See #5 David

But Tohatsu still make them for other markets such as Mexico, Russia, China, etc. All someone needs to do is import them and carry some spares.

 

[rafiki_]

But Tohatsu still make them for other markets such as Mexico, Russia, China, etc. All someone needs to do is import them and carry some spares.

Different fuel specs in those territories than Eu.

 

[[2068]]

Different fuel specs in those territories than Eu.

You are most probably correct, however I'm holding on to my hope for for the return of the sub-10hp two stroke

 

[rafiki_]

You are most probably correct, however I'm holding on to my hope for for the return of the sub-10hp two stroke

Not at a sensible cost. Will need significant after treatment to meet the emissions regs.

 

[grumpy_o_g]

http://mainbrayce.co.uk/two-strokes-still-available/