IS MBM BECOMING BORING?

[Guest]

Talking with other readers of MBM they should take note that although one or two new features have been introduced that this monthly is becoming boring!
Does MBM think we want to read almost every month of yet another cruise down French canals,does anyone on the south coast go anywhere else?
Most readers will not have super yachts,lets see more adverts of boats for sale below £40,000,lets see features on older boats,what to buy,what to pay,where to find them, and how people have renovated them,lets see features on cruises around and in the UK.
What about a market survey to find the cheapest boat chandler!
How many other readers agree?

RLM Mike

RLM MIKE

 

[mike_kolling]

I think its getting better.
Its MBY thats got the problem.

 

[Guest]

No, but it's the wrong magazine for you. Personally, I'm still waiting for the launch issue of "30-footish South Coast Sports Cruiser Monthly, incorporating Things to Do with Young Children on Boats". I understand it will tell me everything about me, all about the places I have been to, and the the things I know about doing.

MBM is a bit too much focused on slow, sensible, practical boats for my taste, while MBY is gradually losing the plot: "Next month in MBY, Buying Cruise Liners - what to look for in a 50,000 tonner..."

 

[stewart]

no....

....MBM has always been boring (had a look at the first boat mag I ever bought 8 years ago and it was boring then too!).

Since when has £40,000 bought a superyacht? Think that's about a factor of 100 out!

If you want to know about rubbing your foredeck with varnish and playing with your sternglands then try PBO but there are obvously lots of people buying the boats in MBY so it caters for a market - just because it's not yours then it doesn't make it less valid, you're just buying the wrong mag!

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Agreed

You're right its MBY thats losing the plot, its becoming a sort of nautical 'Hello' magazine which seems to be aimed more at the coffee table market. At least MBM tries to retain some relevance to the average boater

 

[tcm]

Re: New mag for Mnewby: Launch issue out now!

Miserable Motor Boats Monthly – Launch issue !


Editorial

You can tell it’s almost summer as the rain gets warmer in the UK. For some, it’s time for them to spread their wings and fly to sunnier shores and enjoy Mediterranean boating. Others will consider an extended cruise from the UK, perhaps to Holland, France or the Channel Islands.

Well, they all can just get stuffed as far as we care! Yes! Those jumped-up show-offs have been filling the mags with their boring stories of flash boats and fancy trips for far too long. And who wants to go to nasty foreign places with weird foreign types anyway? No thank you!

Along with our readers, all of us at Miserable Motor Boats Monthly will be spending the summer months twiddling with some old crap boat that still doesn’t quite work properly, but which was very very cheap. Or, we'll be wandering around chandlery shops moaning about the prices and not actually buying anything.

Contents

-The UK’s Cheapest Chandlery:
Our researchers found the very cheapest chndlery in The UK, and actually bought an item of gear from them, and even got a discount! Hurrah! Unfortunately, the stuff we bought was so very cheap that it unsurprisingly broke. And when we went back to complain the chandlery itself has gone bust! Damn damn damn. There ought to be a law against it!

-Cheap trips around the UK.
We don’t go far at MMBM – have you seen the price of fuel for chrissakes? So rather than take the boat, we decided that most readers would probably walk instead, but not too far. And certainly not to any of those dreadful “pubs” or so-called “restaurants” full of people wasting their money when they could have bought the same stuff at Tesco for a fraction of the price.

Dead Cheap Boats for sale. The rear section of the magazine is dedicated to dead cheap boats for sale. I mean really blimmmin cheap! So cheap that they hardly work. Unfortunately this hasn’t exactly gone down a bundle with the commercial advertisers. Most of them questioned the validity of their placing advertisinng in a determinedly non-aspirational magazine. Others said it sounded very scruffy. Cheeky gits! Anyway, there’s only three boats but more next month perhaps...

 

[PGD]

Re: no....

LOL, very good, but MBM doesn't seem to cover river cruises much in th UK, perhaps rivers don't exist to them, like volvo who only fit salt water anodes to everything and don't warn against sediment build up at low speeds!

I'm not saying it should become a ditchcrawler digest but it should try to cover other areas, agrees PBO for practical stuff but then that mainly suites the rag and stick lot, still some of it does apply.

Not everything is black and white if you prove otherwise you’ll get run over on a zebra crossing

 

[stewart]

Re: no....

A slight diversion I know, but can someone explain the attraction of going up and down the same bit of river week in week out? Surely you're based in one marina you can only do 20 miles upstream or 20 miles down stream and that's the limit of your option. And let's face it, it's not exactly challenging is it?

 

[hlb]

Yes there all becoming quite crappy, I agree. Boats are either far to big and posh. Or to old and slow. As in PBO. Much better to come here IMHO. After all. You can be script writer, editor and critic. All at once. If articles dont suit.Write yer own or just tell the other bloke he's daft. Cant do that with the magazine. Well you can but you will never see it in print.
Where else can you actualy join in the argument whether this or that boat is any good. No this is the only place that will tell you the full story. So sack all that lot at MBY, MBM and PBO. Just keep one bloke to staple all the posts here into a mag shaped thingy book. Add in the crap adverts and stick a cover on it. Now thers some thing usefull to read. And we can all take a copy down to the pub and say. Look thats wot I rote. init good!! And corse we will all have pictures of our own boats in there as well. Not some boring other farts boat!!

No one can force me to come here-----------
----- I'm a Volunteer!!!

Haydn

 

[PGD]

Re: no....

I appreciate you view point, but don't necessarily agree, we can do 20 mile + in adya and tend to take different friends out each time, that's what make the weekends enjoyable, also being out early morning or late at night you see a different side to the river.

As for the challenging part - have you seen how holiday boats are driven

The point I wanted to make was that if you took a week or so's trip along any UK river I'm sure some folk would be interested in reading about it. Just as I read the forign travel stuff.

You'll never please all us boaters at once.

Peter

Not everything is black and white if you prove otherwise you’ll get run over on a zebra crossing

 

[stewart]

Re: no....

wasn't critising, just didn't really understand it. Still not sure I do......

 

[BarryH]

I take it you've had a good day then! Northerners, Cynical.....Never ;-)

Wha'dya mean "I'm always playing with this engine" its the only way to get it to run!

 

[PGD]

Re: no....

What don't you quite get ? the funny from TCM or my saying that river cruising can be as interesting as sea cruises IMHO? or somthing else - delete as applicable

Peter

Not everything is black and white if you prove otherwise you’ll get run over on a zebra crossing

 

[stewart]

Re: no....

with TCM all the way, it's the muddy ditch bit I don't get. Well maybe for a week's holiday or something I can see it but not the same bit of river every weekend.

 

[hlb]

Re: no....

Aah! but you havn't read Tale Of The River Bank!!

No one can force me to come here-----------
----- I'm a Volunteer!!!

Haydn

 

[Guest]

Re: How about this month MBY?

Just what I was waiting for MBY this month a full test on the Fleming 75 a 22 knot tanker, for a cool £2.9 Million
I wonder in reality how many of MBY's 100,000 or so readers have been waiting for this test to read before
rushing out and buying one eh? I mean is it really relavent to your average reader?

cneighbour

 

[adarcy]

Re: 2 d worth

MBM is only boring if it deals with boats that don't interest one, like me.

I've always gone for MBY even though had to wait 14 years before being able to get a TSDY flybridge - there's always something to be said about being aspirational.

Personally, I'd prefer it if both mags covered more tests of boats and maybe split their market, ie MBM below 35ft and MBY above, but I believe the editors various have repeatedly said their problem is being able to get hold of boats to test.

 

[lanason]

ALERT

Careful double meaning of the word HOLIDAY - Hope Tony does not read your post ...... and you should know BETTER !!!!
<BG> )))))

Don't call me "Ian"
Cleopatra - yellow hull called Court Jester. Have you seen her ?

 

[ArthurWood]

Re: Agreed, Deleted User

Agreed Kikef - I looked at this month's contents of MBY and binned it. Too much other stuff to read without wasting time on that. Will not renew subscription.

 

[oldgit]

Re: much prefer 100 things to do TO children

My wife said that my post could be misread by some people so i have been ordered to clarify my comment .I hate kids just ask my daughter.

My wife reckons I spend to much time on here.
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