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What about the fenders? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
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miket
Well-Known Member
Oh dear Mike!
What a lot of fuss!!
As far as I know, the request was by way of a reminder for those that may not be aware of this tradition, that enhances the appearance of the boat and keeps the crew fit.
I confess to raising our fenders as soon as we exit a lock or mooring with the exception of Goring/ Cleeve and Temple/ Hurley. My only concession is that I never have more than 3 fenders each side and often only 2.
I have never had Kevin or Wayne run into the boat. The only occasion where things may get fraught is around locks or moorings when of course fenders are always down.
As has been pointed out by others, it is just one of those little boating traditions, like taking in the ensign at night and periodically cleaning the boat. Nice to maintain but no one is forcing you.
If Mr Shead (??) wishes to drive a filthy boat with all fenders dragging in the water that is entirely up to him. Personally I wouldn't brag about it and I certainly wouldn't advertise the fact that that I had any connection with a boaty magazine!!
What a lot of fuss!!
As far as I know, the request was by way of a reminder for those that may not be aware of this tradition, that enhances the appearance of the boat and keeps the crew fit.
I confess to raising our fenders as soon as we exit a lock or mooring with the exception of Goring/ Cleeve and Temple/ Hurley. My only concession is that I never have more than 3 fenders each side and often only 2.
I have never had Kevin or Wayne run into the boat. The only occasion where things may get fraught is around locks or moorings when of course fenders are always down.
As has been pointed out by others, it is just one of those little boating traditions, like taking in the ensign at night and periodically cleaning the boat. Nice to maintain but no one is forcing you.
If Mr Shead (??) wishes to drive a filthy boat with all fenders dragging in the water that is entirely up to him. Personally I wouldn't brag about it and I certainly wouldn't advertise the fact that that I had any connection with a boaty magazine!!
byron
RIP
Re: Oh dear Mike!
I swear before god Michael you are getting grouchier and grouchier as you get older. What happened to the happy go lucky chappie you used to be a generation ago /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I swear before god Michael you are getting grouchier and grouchier as you get older. What happened to the happy go lucky chappie you used to be a generation ago /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
miket
Well-Known Member
Re: Oh dear Mike!
Hi Byron.
Which one?
Hi Byron.
Which one?
apollo
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Re: Oh dear Mike!
If i am a grouch then so are all the others above who came to exactly the same conclusion on reading the text.
I do have another reason for being particularly narked at this (although I think any committee resorting to requesting members change behaviour is pretty poor..)
My boat was clouted with such force a week ago by another craft - it propelled a whole set of wine glasses 3 feet across the cabin and smashed the lot of them on the floor.
The fenders were DOWN and hence thankfully no visible damage seems to have occurred to the exterior hull.
I think enough said.
If i am a grouch then so are all the others above who came to exactly the same conclusion on reading the text.
I do have another reason for being particularly narked at this (although I think any committee resorting to requesting members change behaviour is pretty poor..)
My boat was clouted with such force a week ago by another craft - it propelled a whole set of wine glasses 3 feet across the cabin and smashed the lot of them on the floor.
The fenders were DOWN and hence thankfully no visible damage seems to have occurred to the exterior hull.
I think enough said.
Richard Shead
Slipped Anchor
Re: Oh dear Mike!
Ahhh but you should see our other boats.....
As I have often said the Thames boat is our pub boat that has bought joy to many of my friends and their kids no matter how dirty or bashed up it is.
As I have also said I always chuckle to my self when others often in larger boats often look down and or offer advice to me whilst in the lock or mooring up.
As a kid my dad often insisted that fenders were bought up on deck, great idea especially when I ended up in the water having tripped on one outside Bray lock in the hissing rain in full wet weather gear.
And as I have often said again, I do work for a boating mag (lots actually) but my views are my own.
If it helps when we leave Chichester marina we do bring in the fenders and tie them to the bathing platform making sure they do not cover the union jack...
Ahhh but you should see our other boats.....
As I have often said the Thames boat is our pub boat that has bought joy to many of my friends and their kids no matter how dirty or bashed up it is.
As I have also said I always chuckle to my self when others often in larger boats often look down and or offer advice to me whilst in the lock or mooring up.
As a kid my dad often insisted that fenders were bought up on deck, great idea especially when I ended up in the water having tripped on one outside Bray lock in the hissing rain in full wet weather gear.
And as I have often said again, I do work for a boating mag (lots actually) but my views are my own.
If it helps when we leave Chichester marina we do bring in the fenders and tie them to the bathing platform making sure they do not cover the union jack...
JKay
Well-Known Member
Re: Oh dear Mike!
or "the auld Jolly Roger" /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
or "the auld Jolly Roger" /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Richard Shead
Slipped Anchor
Re: Oh dear Mike!
Don't be daft thats already flying from the VHF ariel....
Don't be daft thats already flying from the VHF ariel....
DaveBig
New Member
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If your club put this in their newsletter what would your reaction be....
"I have been asked to mention that it is a general club etiquette that fenders are pulled inboard when vessels are under way, and that it would be appreciated by the committee if efforts could be made in this respect. Thank you."
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It is clear from the quoted text, that the author had been asked to mention this subject to the membership, and as it is a club newsletter, it is a reasonable assumption that the requests came from members. The easiest way to do this is through the newsletter.
If the elected management of a club were to refuse to convey the wishes of its members in respect of existing rules, then they would failing in their duties.
Should a member of a club wish to change the rules or standards of general etiquette, then I am sure that there are ways to achieve this.
If your club put this in their newsletter what would your reaction be....
"I have been asked to mention that it is a general club etiquette that fenders are pulled inboard when vessels are under way, and that it would be appreciated by the committee if efforts could be made in this respect. Thank you."
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It is clear from the quoted text, that the author had been asked to mention this subject to the membership, and as it is a club newsletter, it is a reasonable assumption that the requests came from members. The easiest way to do this is through the newsletter.
If the elected management of a club were to refuse to convey the wishes of its members in respect of existing rules, then they would failing in their duties.
Should a member of a club wish to change the rules or standards of general etiquette, then I am sure that there are ways to achieve this.
No Regrets
Well-Known Member
In fairness, I have yet to notice any particular boating equipe maintain this level of correctness!
Perhaps I missed something...
It seems the act of removing/ replacing fenders on a typical cruiser built within the last thirty years has potential risks which outweigh any other cosmetic advantages.
The possibility of dropping one and having to retrieve it, tripping over one, or simply wrong footing it and taking the plunge seems an unfair price to pay for the almost invisible gains in kudos to the club concerned, whoever they may be.
I'm not assuming it's BCC by the way, despite the origins of the post, although this is quite likely/ possible.
A roped system where one simply pulls and ties up a single line-per-side- seems a reasonable thing to construct and use however.
Quite a nice touch, in fact, although I'm not sure of any downsides at this point!
Perhaps I missed something...
It seems the act of removing/ replacing fenders on a typical cruiser built within the last thirty years has potential risks which outweigh any other cosmetic advantages.
The possibility of dropping one and having to retrieve it, tripping over one, or simply wrong footing it and taking the plunge seems an unfair price to pay for the almost invisible gains in kudos to the club concerned, whoever they may be.
I'm not assuming it's BCC by the way, despite the origins of the post, although this is quite likely/ possible.
A roped system where one simply pulls and ties up a single line-per-side- seems a reasonable thing to construct and use however.
Quite a nice touch, in fact, although I'm not sure of any downsides at this point!
apollo
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No its not BCC.
Richard Shead
Slipped Anchor
Ok lets turn this one around into a positive thread.
Who can design a fully functioning fender retrieval device that raises the fenders without placing them on the deck...answers on a post card please.
The winner gets something from the ybw cupboard...
And I don't want this breaking up any yacht clubs!
Who can design a fully functioning fender retrieval device that raises the fenders without placing them on the deck...answers on a post card please.
The winner gets something from the ybw cupboard...
And I don't want this breaking up any yacht clubs!
Captain Coochie
Well-Known Member
I had something like that on seaspray . I attached some string to the lower hoop of each fender and that was brought back to a hoop and cleat at the cockpit side . If i wanted to lower the fenders i just unlooped the string from the cleat and they fell into place . To raise them i just pulled the string and hooked it back over the cleat .
boatingdave
Well-Known Member
Well I think the club (I know who they are) have a perfectly valid argument. The fenders should also be used on a pulley mechanism so the height can be adjusted depending on who they are likely to come across. They should either be colour coordinated with the vessel or with coordinated fender socks (and definately not be mixed colours). We must remember what their primary purpose is! 
On a serious note (in case you hadn't worked out the above was tongue in cheek) there can be pro's and cons either way. It is nice to have tradition but conversely this is a hobby which should involve lots of relaxing. I passed the instruction on to the head of the crew of my boat (as I'm no longer on the Thames) and the response involved words I had to go and check in the dictionary. Mike - you know the individual involved! LOL.
Take it in the spirit it was intended, there are a lot of older generation boaters in the club who like the old tradition (irrespective if it based on sound or realistic judgement). It is probably not the general concensus and it can only be changed from within. Oh I forgot, despite me volunteering many times to help 'within' (at the unmentioned club) and prevented from doing a job I was asked to do and then someone else being brought in to do it without any word to me.... I'm not bitter! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif You can only be kicked so many times before you lose the desire to volunteer.
Oh and you ARE grumpy or is that just very mis-understood. But still a good pal and no where near as bad as you sometimes come across.
Why don't you start a thread about MP expenses and we can then all join in?
Gotta go - matrons just arrived with my medication.
On a serious note (in case you hadn't worked out the above was tongue in cheek) there can be pro's and cons either way. It is nice to have tradition but conversely this is a hobby which should involve lots of relaxing. I passed the instruction on to the head of the crew of my boat (as I'm no longer on the Thames) and the response involved words I had to go and check in the dictionary. Mike - you know the individual involved! LOL.
Take it in the spirit it was intended, there are a lot of older generation boaters in the club who like the old tradition (irrespective if it based on sound or realistic judgement). It is probably not the general concensus and it can only be changed from within. Oh I forgot, despite me volunteering many times to help 'within' (at the unmentioned club) and prevented from doing a job I was asked to do and then someone else being brought in to do it without any word to me.... I'm not bitter! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif You can only be kicked so many times before you lose the desire to volunteer.
Oh and you ARE grumpy or is that just very mis-understood. But still a good pal and no where near as bad as you sometimes come across.
Why don't you start a thread about MP expenses and we can then all join in?
Gotta go - matrons just arrived with my medication.
Andrew_Fanner
Well-Known Member
I admit I usually leave the fenders dangling, but have moments when I get them lifted and dropped into the baskets, but that means that those in the basket already have to go somewhere and I am sure that rolling loose in the cockpit is not quite the done thing!
I do like the traditions of the river and try to be quite assiduous over taking in the ensign at "sunset" or when I am not on board.
I do like the traditions of the river and try to be quite assiduous over taking in the ensign at "sunset" or when I am not on board.
