NB Willawaw
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I'm not sure which is best; the Garmin GLo or the GNS1000 ?
iPad and navigation
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NB Willawaw
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Main benefit seems to be Russian GLONASS compatibility ?
Perhaps price of the GNS1000 will drop?
Perhaps price of the GNS1000 will drop?
Bandit
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I have an iPad for Xmas believe its a 4 wifi
I have the two navionics packages uk and holland and Europe ii had to download a separate GPS app
GPS lat lon
I have not tried it on boat yet only in the car, but it works.
Might be worth a try
It's GPS coordinates by albrechsten
I have the two navionics packages uk and holland and Europe ii had to download a separate GPS app
GPS lat lon
I have not tried it on boat yet only in the car, but it works.
Might be worth a try
It's GPS coordinates by albrechsten
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laika
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As the usual suspects have already been suggested I'll throw an alternative in. If you're going to use the ipad in conjunction with some nmea-to-wifi device for navigation, I *think* (someone else can perhaps confirm or deny: I own neither iNavX or an ipad) that iNavX will take GPS out of an nmea-over-tcp stream, so you can just use your boat's GPS (as well as the other NMEA data).
pks1702
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I have a wifi only IPad 2 which I have as others suggested turned into a GPS version with Bad Elf BE-GPS-1000. This works well for me with the Navionics HD Chart.
Used for planning and a back up to the onboard plotter.
Used for planning and a back up to the onboard plotter.
Otter
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Yes, in which case the Digital Yacht NMEA wifi is the best though soon to be supplanted by a new Comar unit that's bidirectional so waypoints in Navionics can be used by your autopilot.
Richard10002
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At £96 it's about the same price as the extra you would pay for a 3G iPad with GPS built in.... So I still think returning it for an exchange would be favourite.
Or is there a benefit to having an "external" or "removable" GPS unit?
Iain C
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Apple have an exchange policy...return it in 14 days and just pay the difference if you are upgrading. I did exactly what you did and realised my mistake...
xyachtdave
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I've got the INavX and digital yacht Iais set up. 90 % of the time we sail in local waters and don't need plotter info, so when our existing plotter packed up this looked like a cheap way to get the inf when we need it.
Only thing I would say is you need turn the iPad settings auto lock to 'never' or it disconnects the digital yacht information when the screen powers down.
The battery life is then down to maybe 8 hours. Mines next to a 12v socket so no problem, but thought worth a mention.
Only thing I would say is you need turn the iPad settings auto lock to 'never' or it disconnects the digital yacht information when the screen powers down.
The battery life is then down to maybe 8 hours. Mines next to a 12v socket so no problem, but thought worth a mention.
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AMCD300
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That's my preferred method - relying on external plug-ins/cables etc may catch you out in the long run.
As others have mentioned - buy the 3G/Wi-Fi option but don't bother putting a sim card in it. I use my wife's iPad 2 3G/Wi-Fi with Navionics and Imray charts, and never needed a 3G simcard or contract.
Incidentally, I also have an iPhone and use this, connecting the two devices via the Bluetooth connection, to upload updates/charts to the iPad when away from Wi-Fi. Just make sure your data plan is robust......
Andy
Grumpybear
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I have a pay as you go sim card in my iPad 1 for emergencies.
laika
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Hmm. The digital yacht thingy is 400 quid, only does tcp over IPv4, and if I understand correctly, is unidirectional and only supports one client at a time. If it is the best I dread to think of what the competition is like
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pks1702
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My point was if you have had an existing Ipad2 for a while. I had mine for over a year so I don't think Apple were going to exchange!
On that basis £98 was the most cost effective route.
If I was buying new today of course I would have a GPS enabled version.
Woodlouse
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Be wary of using navionics as a primary source of navigation. I clipped a rock off stromstad in Sweden a couple of years back because navionics said it was 5 meters. My 30 year old paper charts had the depth recorded as 2. I just skipped over it with a two meter draught.
Also on another boat last summer in the South China Sea navionics omitted rather a large reef near southern Vietnam. Again much older paper charts had the correct info and the skipper luckily knew enough of the area to spot the error before we got close enough for it to be an issue.
Your probably not that concerned if you don't sail in far away places but even one in accurately marked rock could cost lives and so there is no excuse when the correct information has been available for decades.
That said I think the iPad idea is great for navigation, but I won't be spending my money on it until there are more trust worthy charts available.
Also on another boat last summer in the South China Sea navionics omitted rather a large reef near southern Vietnam. Again much older paper charts had the correct info and the skipper luckily knew enough of the area to spot the error before we got close enough for it to be an issue.
Your probably not that concerned if you don't sail in far away places but even one in accurately marked rock could cost lives and so there is no excuse when the correct information has been available for decades.
That said I think the iPad idea is great for navigation, but I won't be spending my money on it until there are more trust worthy charts available.
AMCD300
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Even better...
Otter
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Is iNavX just a bridge between NMEA AIS and Navionics? Basically will I still be using the Navionics program if I use the iAIS kit?
Matelot Joe
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I have to agree with this advice, and from personal experience Apple staff have been good. Stick to your guns, smile and quote sale of goods act, its not fit for the purpose based on the information given to the person who sold it you. they are going to make more money so there should not be a problem, as long as its still in good condition.
xyachtdave
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The standard navionics charts from ipad and iphone don't work with the digital yacht gear, you need to buy the charts through Xtransverse/INavX to get it to work. The digital yacht iAIS gives ais info and your own boats info to the iPad - gps, depth, wind, speed etc all on the screen at the top.
You can easily stick waypoints in using the iPad touch screen and use INavX as a proper plotter. I don't think this is possible on the standard navionics download everyone seems to have on their phone.
They email updates for chart updates, for example the hook spit change to the reculver buoys in our area, updated in seconds and the new buoys shown.
To be honest I only ever use it to have a quick look at the screen to check I'm where I thought I was!
The ais is good, takes a little guess work out of ship encounters.
If you passage plan on paper, aren't used to having a plotter at the helm and just want a screen by the chart table to help with position fixes it's ideal. Particularly as it can be taken home easily and used for so many other things.
I'm not a techy sailor and could get by with a windex, depth and handheld gps. This is a gps and windex more than the likes of Cunliffe.... but less than the massive equipment lists on other boats.
Otter
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I've used an ipad for the last couple of years as our ship's plotter running Navionics but now want to add wifi AIS - I'll wait - it sounds like there needs to be bidirectional multi client solution.