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Deleted User YDKXO
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When was the last time you saw a moboer giving the finger or two to a yottie? No, we moboers are above such petty squabbling
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About 20 million people in the SE of England live within 2 hrs drive of the Solent and many of those people are prosperous enough to own a boat. The Solent also happens to be a relatively large but protected area of water which is ideal for both motorboats and yachts and it also happens to have dozens of marinas to park them in
paul salliss
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Where have I mentioned wealth? Did you feel the need to introduce it because no one else has?
My post was an ironic one, mimicking Deleted User's with all his preconceptions about yotties, but it obviously escaped you...
How many of these mystical overtaking yotties have rammed you then, shouldn't you hold your course as the vessel being overtaken? Jinking about like that in front of faster boats could cause all sorts of mayhem and collisions.I think that is just one of you "preconceived" ideas of yotties - that none of them know the rules as well as you. Can you produce one, I know hundreds and there's thousands on here but I have never seen or heard a single one claim to be stand on when over taking - I thing they are a mystical beast that exists only in the imagination of certain types of moboer
Is your 3 to 6 knots over the ground, because that can equate to 7 to 10 knots through the water when the tide is at full flow, how's your wash then? Is a boat that creates excessive wash a low speeds in confined areas "fit for purpose"?
Calm down for goodness sake
l'escargot
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I've seen it quite a number of times over the years.When was the last time you saw a moboer giving the finger or two to a yottie? No, we moboers are above such petty squabbling
I've even had two motor boats off Cowes divert from their course and pass close either side of me when I've been stood on the coachroof taking a sail down and head off laughing back on course.
I've also had someone on a big motorboat give me the finger and roar off when I shouted that he had dropped a fender - It was brand new and I've still got it
You are in denial if you think all moboer are as superior as you...
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l'escargot
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I'm very calm, it's henryf and Deleted User who seem to be getting excited.
All I said was it's the people overtaking in the small boat channel that cause the problem and Henry goes off on one almost writing a short story in response
I've just thought, are they related, both being "f"'s" and they both seem to have a similar disdain for yotties...
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superheat6k
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I am fortunate not to berth at Blockhouse anymore meaning I don't have the chaos of entry (nor the bloody awful drive into Gosport either for that matter), with seemingly most exiting unable to work out what 'close to stbd' means as they exit past the marker piles, with the entry followed by a tight port turn across the traffic leaving. On occasions I found myself almost at Ballast (when it was a buoy passed to stbd) before I could turn, but what I utterly fail to understand is why the patrol cannot police the entrance more sensibly, after all at most there are only a few large vessels movements per day, and the ferries do not pass each other in the entrance and are hardly the beam of an aircraft carrier.
Intelligent policing by the patrol, who only appear at the busy periods anyway, could easily allow them to permit a wider channel when larger commercial or naval vessels (even rarer event nowadays as we hardly have any left - but that's another thread) are not navigating.
Intelligent policing by the patrol, who only appear at the busy periods anyway, could easily allow them to permit a wider channel when larger commercial or naval vessels (even rarer event nowadays as we hardly have any left - but that's another thread) are not navigating.
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Deleted User YDKXO
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I've seen it quite a number of times over the years.
I've even had two motor boats off Cowes divert from their course and pass close either side of me when I've been stood on the coachroof taking a sail down and head off laughing back on course.
I've also had someone on a big motorboat give me the finger and roar off when I shouted that he had dropped a fender - It was brand new and I've still got it
You are in denial if you think all moboer are as superior as you...
Well I apologise unresevedly on behalf of all those moboers who have slighted you
Have you tried the Med? We all get on quite well out there
l'escargot
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Not for some years and then it was mostly Italian moboers if I remember correctly - they made the Solent ones look tame... :encouragement:Well I apologise unresevedly on behalf of all those moboers who have slighted you
Uricanejack
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I go sailing for fun and relaxation.
I also go fishing for the same reason. I am happy going slow, not particularly bothered about the tide. Although I do like to troll against the tide, With my feet up and a cold beer. I do look behind but only to check the rod tip
Life is to short to get upset about somebodies wake, Karma a bigger boat will pass him eventually.
I also go fishing for the same reason. I am happy going slow, not particularly bothered about the tide. Although I do like to troll against the tide, With my feet up and a cold beer. I do look behind but only to check the rod tip
Life is to short to get upset about somebodies wake, Karma a bigger boat will pass him eventually.
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Deleted User YDKXO
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You have just offended our resident Italian mobo forumite who I'm sure will be along later to trade insults and put you right on that statement
Sailorsam101
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Going slow is perfectly fine..but not in a narrow crowded channel..it is bloody dangerous.
l'escargot
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And to continue making the Solent ones look tame...You have just offended our resident Italian mobo forumite who I'm sure will be along later to trade insults and put you right on that statement
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sorabain
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I'm very calm, it's henryf and Deleted User who seem to be getting excited.
All I said was it's the people overtaking in the small boat channel that cause the problem and Henry goes off on one almost writing a short story in response
I've just thought, are they related, both being "f"'s" and they both seem to have a similar disdain for yotties...
as with everything it's the exact conditions of the time which dictate the optimal strategy. There are simply too many "if, buts" to meaningfully enumerate which situations mean overtaking is best and which mean overtaking is not good. I expect one party has a situation where overtaking is clearly best (e.g. one vessel not making much headway, there's plenty of room, nothing coming the other way, but lots of boats wanting to go the same way), and the other party has another scenario in mind where there's bottlenecks both ways and everyone's making progress "well enough".
I come in and out of Portsmouth a lot and haven't found myself in any really bad situations yet, and have generally found it a good natured affair with skippers in all types of vessels (i'm a RIB) maintaining a good lookout and showing their intentions (e.g. yachts taking a left into haslar) effectively.
MapisM
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Sorry if some IT moboers annoyed you.
But trust me, you would definitely prefer to come across the most unpolite IT boater while cruising the Med, rather than a group of drunk Brit hooligans while walking around the historical center of an IT town.
With apologies to any genuine football fan for the sweeping generalization, which is something I hate in principle, but this ain't too out of place, considering the recent level of this debate... :ambivalence:
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Deleted User YDKXO
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See, you've got him angry nowAnd to continue making the Solent ones look tame...
l'escargot
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I very seldom get annoyed and in the med I was even more chilled, I generally watch the antics with mild bemusement more than anything else. Believe me, I have no love for the British holiday maker abroad, in fact I probably don't like them much back in the UK either. I can do generalisations as well as the next man...:encouragement:
Anders_P42
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We always have a chuckle entering leaving Portsmouth. So many sailboats on the wrong side. I don't proclaim to be an expert with two years and 150 hours under my belt, by I try to drive on the correct side of the road 
l'escargot
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I think talking about "driving" your motorboat on the "correct side of the road" may encourage an unfavourable view of the average motor boater...We always have a chuckle entering leaving Portsmouth. So many sailboats on the wrong side. I don't proclaim to be an expert with two years and 150 hours under my belt, by I try to drive on the correct side of the road
sorabain
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I think talking about "driving" your motorboat on the "correct side of the road" may encourage an unfavourable view of the average motor boater...
I expect he was making an analogy with driving a car as it's clearly bad behaviour to drive (a car) on the wrong side of the road, but happens in boats much more often without the skipper necessarily realizing.
I've never been comfortable saying i'm "sailing" a motorboat, "helming" sounds contrived, "steering" seems too specific, "skippering" sounds pretentious, so "driving" one isn't so bad. The government thinks it's ok too:
https://www.gov.uk/owning-a-boat/safety-on-inland-waterways
"Rules of the waterways
You must drive on the right and pass other boats port to port on all waterways."
not that they're the authority on such matters. What verb would you use?
Sailorsam101
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We always have a chuckle entering leaving Portsmouth. So many sailboats on the wrong side. I don't proclaim to be an expert with two years and 150 hours under my belt, by I try to drive on the correct side of the road
In my experience it's always the motorboats that seem to be on the wrong side...and try to bully past and make oncoming boats move out of their way.
