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Everyone ignored the old Cowes speed limit, so it's been reigned in to only apply to the inner harbour or within 100m of the HW mark.
 
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They never look behind, and two hoots on the horn to advise them I wish to overtake on the starboard never does illicit an appropriate response if any at all.

You might wish to read Rule 34 and note the signal. No where is it two hoots.
 
You might wish to read Rule 34 and note the signal. No where is it two hoots.

You mean this one?

a) When power-driven vessels are in sight of one another and meeting or crossing at a distance within half a mile of each other, each vessel underway, when maneuvering as authorized or required by these Rules:

(i) shall indicate that maneuver by the following signals on her whistle:

one short blast to mean "I intend to leave you on my port side";
two short blasts to mean "I intend to leave you on my starboard side";
three short blasts to mean "I am operating astern propulsion".
or this one?

Sound Signals & Rules For Overtaking & Crossing

Every pleasure craft of less than 12m shall carry an efficient sound signalling device. It is used in overtaking and crossing situations and in periods of reduced visibility.
Overtaking Crossing

Overtaking: The vessel that wishes to overtake is the Give-Way Vessel. The vessel being overtaken is the Stand-On Vessel.

The Stand-On Vessel maintains course and speed. The Give-Way Vessel must take early and substantial action to avoid the Stand-On Vessel.

In the diagram above Vessel 1 is the overtaking or, Give-Way Vessel. It can overtake Vessel 2, on either side.

They will sound the following signals:

I want to pass on your starboard side: One Short Blast
Proceed: One Short Blast
I want to pass on your Port Side: Two Short Blasts
Proceed: Two Short Blasts

I'm confused. Maybe we have different Rule 34's?

Or maybe you thought that I didn't give"two hoots" to the rules
 
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You mean this one?


or this one?



I'm confused. Maybe we have different Rule 34's?

Or maybe you thought that I didn't give"two hoots" to the rules

Odd, because Rule 34 seems to me to say

Rule 34 (Manoeuvring and warning signals) said:
(c) When in sight of one another in a narrow channel or fairway:

(i) a vessel intending to overtake another shall in compliance with Rule 9 (e)(i) indicate her intention by the following signals on her whistle:

- two prolonged blasts followed by one short blast to mean "I intend to overtake you on your starboard side";

- two prolonged blasts followed by two short blasts to mean "I intend to overtake you on your port side".

(ii) the vessel about to be overtaken when acting in accordance with Rule 9 (e)(i) shall indicate her agreement by the following signal on her whistle:

- one prolonged, one short, one prolonged and one short blast, in that order.

Where did yours come from?
 
I was replying specifically to Sailorsam101's comment about skippers not looking behind them. This is not unique to Portsmouth, nor advocating that 2 blasts of the horn would be suitable there. Just simply passing comment on.....you got it :D ...skippers not looking behind them.

Hoo boy everyone wants an argument :D
 
I was replying specifically to Sailorsam101's comment about skippers not looking behind them. This is not unique to Portsmouth, nor advocating that 2 blasts of the horn would be suitable there. Just simply passing comment on.....you got it :D ...skippers not looking behind them.

Hoo boy everyone wants an argument :D

Yes, you do seem to
 
LOL. Don't you butt in now Jimmy, if you want to queue jump to get the boot in, it's 2 hoots and a beep for a right legger unless you're inland and then you can disregard the beep. :p
 
Everyone ignored the old Cowes speed limit, so it's been reigned in to only apply to the inner harbour or within 100m of the HW mark.

Everyone with fast boats seems to ignore the Dockyard of Portsmouth speed limit - 10 knots within 1000 yards of the shore in the area bounded by Bembridge to Hayling and Lee on Solent to East Cowes...
 
The small boat channel is a great leveller. Everyone using it goes too fast/too slow/too close to the main channel/too near the middle.

Me? Every time I get through it without incident I seem to be in the process of congratulating myself on my seamanship only then to get nearly wiped out by the Gosport ferry/Southsea hovercraft depending, obviously, on which way I happen to be headed at the time. :D
 
Nothing like jumping to assumptions :)

Yes, we have just over 1,400 HP on tap from our engines. A top speed of just over 30 knots, a bit under 30 tonnes so great wake potential and a high freeboard so we look huge and can put the willies up smaller boats.

Except I'm at the helm.

I am woefully aware of my wash. I do look behind to make sure we aren't making too much wash. I used to live on the canal where wake is the topic of every other conversation. I had Emily at the helm for most of the weekend teaching her. The first day was spent at between 6 or 7 knots as we covered navigation and planned our way through the Solent traffic.

On Sunday we upped the speed leaving Souhampton water and the whole focus was on avoiding boats and leaving as much room as possible, in particular static fishing boats and yachts. We can't help the fact that we have the ability to cruise at 20 knots or more but we do use that ability to take the long way round where appropriate so as not to disrupt slower boats be they sail or motor. Emily will be taught the same courtesy.
So to suggest that by not sitting in the harbour entrance making a steady 1 knot entry I am anti-social is incorrect.

The speed limit within the harbour is 10 knots but at anything like that we cause a hell of a wake so instead I leave the engine in tick over and do a wake free 6.5 knots. Entering against a tide I use a small amount of throttle in an area of water already disturbed by wake and current. As we went up towards Fareham for a potter on Sunday it was tickover all the way. As we sat having our lunch we too got buffeted by small boats who insisted on dragging half the harbour behind them.

I still maintain there are a lot of boats not fit for purpose who insist on trying to battle through a very strong tide flowing out of Portsmouth when waiting until slower water would be prudent.

Henry :)
 
I am woefully aware of my wash. I do look behind to make sure we aren't making too much wash. )
Why do you bother? Every yottie is going to hate you for having the effrontery to drive something that hasn't got a sail whether you're doing 6.5 or 65kts so you might as well put your pedal to the metal. Apropos nothing at all, this kind of self righteous bollox just doesn't seem happen anywhere else except the UK.
 
I pleased I'm not the only one then that thinks it a bun fight getting in and out. I have to say the advantage of a powerboat it tends to just increase the revs and push through. Sail boats can struggle. Loads of sail boat go through with their sails up. I have no idea if they are under power because I have never seen any with their under power marker up! So it's fair to say it goes both ways for making mistakes and not following the rules of the road! Either way it can be very busy with boats going all over the place and you most definitely should have both yours and any crew eye open
 
Why do you bother? Every yottie is going to hate you for having the effrontery to drive something that hasn't got a sail whether you're doing 6.5 or 65kts so you might as well put your pedal to the metal. Apropos nothing at all, this kind of self righteous bollox just doesn't seem happen anywhere else except the UK.

I suffer just like everyone else when tied up in the harbour so there's no need to add to the misery. My canal heritage does run quite deep as well :)

Henry :)
 
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