Inter eu passport check.no

[BurnitBlue]

A carrier is obliged to check that every passenger they carry has valid documentation for the country they are delivering the individual to, even on EU internal flights as each country is still a sovereign nation with its own border control laws. Ryanair will get fined if they transport anyone without valid travel documentation.

If you read the link above to the border guards handbook, the checks on 3rd country nationals are more thorough than the checks on EU nationals. Including ...



Ryanair are also sharing their passenger data because they are required to, the EU has agreed on a system to share airline passenger details. The Passenger Name Record (PNR) system allows access to passenger information including names, contact details and credit cards.
Details are collected from European carrier flights entering or leaving the EU - as well as from those between member countries. This is most probably how they got your details.

Border and law enforcement - advance passenger information (API) - revised rules

Maybe they were told to check you by Greek border control when they received the Advanced Passenger Information, or maybe Denmark decided to do it themselves. Who knows.

Yes, I must adapt to the new information sharing system. Every man and his dog can browse my internet history from cookies and sell it on. I must take care not to visit dodgy web pages. Nothing I can do about card access to ATMs which is a very reliable tracking system to those with the authority to gather sensitive info. It looks like residence status in a Schengen country may have value in Schengen because they are effectively living in Shengen 24/7 and every day of the year. But not having a residents passport stamped is extremely puzzling to my way of thinking. Are there 27 different Schengen agreements or only one that all member states must follow. I think the no passport stamp is a fudge to bridge the gap.between living in Schengen full time yet when crossing EU borders to being restricted by other Schengen states to 90/180. To most people living outside Schengen the rules are clear. 90/180. But not so logical for residents. Which must account for less than a minute percentage of tourists. A fudge is easier to correct than changing what is really bad law.

Thanks for all the replies and possible explanations to what was, for me a strange incident.

 

[Graham376]

Ryanair are also sharing their passenger data because they are required to, the EU has agreed on a system to share airline passenger details. The Passenger Name Record (PNR) system allows access to passenger information including names, contact details and credit cards.
Details are collected from European carrier flights entering or leaving the EU - as well as from those between member countries. This is most probably how they got your details.

Although airlines have to pass on passenger info, it doesn't appear to be passed on to border control, at least in Portugal. For many years, my wife has been booked on flights to Portugal under UK passport married name but on arrival presents her citizen card in maiden name as she doesn't have residence under UK married name. On leaving (still booked on flight under UK details) she uses citizen card at border control but on arrival in UK presents UK passport. Never had this queried.

 

[LittleSister]

. . . when I applied to UK to renew my passport . . . I certainly did not give any info about Swedish residency because they did not ask for any.

But Sweden quite likely notified the UK authorities when it granted you residency.

 

[AntarcticPilot]

But Sweden quite likely notified the UK authorities when it granted you residency.

You cannot overestimate the degree of data sharing going on.

 

[Sybarite]

No explanation. Here is what happened to me yesterday, taxi to preveza bus terminal, Ktel to Thessalonki. Ryanair boarding pass to copehagan cph got me to the departure lounge. When boarding my flight to cph another check on boarding pass and passport all normal. However the ryanair boarding employee let me through, but handed my passport to a man in civilian clothes waiting on the other side. He flicked through every page of the passport in a very professional manner. Then he asked if I lived in Sweden and I replied yes I do. He then asked to see my residence card. He compared the card to my passport then said thank you and waved me through. What was that about? I dont think the immigration man was there on my behalf. Not many Brits on a Greek to Denmark plane? What do you think? Notice he said do you live in Sweden not do you live in Denmark.

Well if you do put "In transit" as your location what did you expect?

 

[BurnitBlue]

But Sweden quite likely notified the UK authorities when it granted you residency.

I doubt that because I got the "Proof of Life" forms from UK pensions a few month ago because I live outside UK. No doubt Swedish Banks would be the first to know so they get first dibs at taxes due. Then the Swedish pension service, vote registration, etc. They have no incentive to Inform the home country of so many migrants (must be well over 300) different countries with even more different languages. That would be in the same league as resident notification. Certainly asylum seekers will not have their where-abouts broadcast. I am not one BTW.

 

[Frogmogman]

They might be looking for someone....just checking anyone fitting their description. It could be a major criminal or just a dad who took his kids after a split.

Reminds me of the time I was returning from a language exchange to Vienna, aged 14. When my passport was checked, I was escorted by men with machine guns to a room where I was questioned. It turned out that my surname, shared with the chief of staff of the IRA, had rung all the bells.

It still surprises me that they had thought a young English schoolboy might actually be a 55 year old head of an Irish paramilitary organization.

 

[BurnitBlue]

Reminds me of the time I was returning from a language exchange to Vienna, aged 14. When my passport was checked, I was escorted by men with machine guns to a room where I was questioned. It turned out that my surname, shared with the chief of staff of the IRA, had rung all the bells.

It still surprises me that they had thought a young English schoolboy might actually be a 55 year old head of an Irish paramilitary organization.

I like the title of "Jobsworth" when applied to such employees. They basically work from a script. Greece spends millions of Euro advertising every year enticing people like yachtowners who spend hundreds of Euro during their visit. Then after three month the jobsworths move in ensuring proven law abiding spenders do leave. Some leave for good taking their boats with them. But that does not seem to bother them, one tiny bit.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

I like the title of "Jobsworth" when applied to such employees. They basically work from a script. Greece spends millions of Euro advertising every year enticing people like yachtowners who spend hundreds of Euro during their visit. Then after three month the jobsworths move in ensuring proven law abiding spenders do leave. Some leave for good taking their boats with them. But that does not seem to bother them, one tiny bit.

Presumably because like the proverbial bus there will be another one along shortly.

 

[westernman]

Certainly asylum seekers will not have their where-abouts broadcast.

Why do you think that?
I knew very well an asylum seeker in Germany. His location was well broadcast to various German and European authorities.

[ He was from the Soviet Union. His asylum request was initially rejected, but eventually he got German citizenship. ]