Incident on Loch Fyne?

Does anyone have any info on why the Nancy Glen sunk? I have not seen any newspaper reports or discussions. Usually these things are discussed and speculated on for days on end. It's as if it's not being talked about. From what I hear (albeit secondhand) from someone who knew the crew and has actually been on the boat several times, the Nancy Glen was very well looked after and maintained regularly to a high standard. From photos the Nancy Glen did appear to be a very substantial vessel. The crew was very experienced and they were within a mile from their home port. I believe the weather was ok. It just seems very odd that it sunk so rapidly.
 
asteven221 said:
Does anyone have any info on why the Nancy Glen sunk? I have not seen any newspaper reports or discussions. Usually these things are discussed and speculated on for days on end. It's as if it's not being talked about. From what I hear (albeit secondhand) from someone who knew the crew and has actually been on the boat several times, the Nancy Glen was very well looked after and maintained regularly to a high standard. From photos the Nancy Glen did appear to be a very substantial vessel. The crew was very experienced and they were within a mile from their home port. I believe the weather was ok. It just seems very odd that it sunk so rapidly.
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Lat and long here
http://www.rsmyc.org.uk/newsletters/notice-to-mariners/4/
Roughly about 1.5 miles north east of Tarbert Harbour ferry slip.
 
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asteven221 said:
Does anyone have any info on why the Nancy Glen sunk? I have not seen any newspaper reports or discussions. Usually these things are discussed and speculated on for days on end. It's as if it's not being talked about. From what I hear (albeit secondhand) from someone who knew the crew and has actually been on the boat several times, the Nancy Glen was very well looked after and maintained regularly to a high standard. From photos the Nancy Glen did appear to be a very substantial vessel. The crew was very experienced and they were within a mile from their home port. I believe the weather was ok. It just seems very odd that it sunk so rapidly.
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There is a MAIB investigation going on so there will be a detailed report eventually.

It's not unknown for fishing vessels to suddenly capsize and sink, nets caught, flooded engine room or hold, overloaded with catch, additional gear affecting stability. There's MAIB reports on vessels that have suffered from all of those.
 
mainsail1 said:
Surely if you do it for one loss, it should be done for all?
The cost of recovery should not be a factor. From where you stand, an extra few hundred pounds on your income tax each year would be well worth it just to repatriate the deceased to their next of kin.
Or do I detect double standards or muddled thinking?
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It would be terrible to spend a million and then fail to find a body.
 
asteven221 said:
Does anyone have any info on why the Nancy Glen sunk? I have not seen any newspaper reports or discussions. Usually these things are discussed and speculated on for days on end. It's as if it's not being talked about. From what I hear (albeit secondhand) from someone who knew the crew and has actually been on the boat several times, the Nancy Glen was very well looked after and maintained regularly to a high standard. From photos the Nancy Glen did appear to be a very substantial vessel. The crew was very experienced and they were within a mile from their home port. I believe the weather was ok. It just seems very odd that it sunk so rapidly.
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MAIB presumably fairly confident - but usually takes a year for their report. They didn't want to recover the vessel as they knew enough.

Clyde 1 said it was thought a trawl door got stock on the sea bed.
 
lpdsn said:
It's not unknown for fishing vessels to suddenly capsize and sink, nets caught, flooded engine room or hold, overloaded with catch, additional gear affecting stability. There's MAIB reports on vessels that have suffered from all of those.
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Normally (and I have no idea if this will apply to the Nancy Glen) it seems to be the result of additional superstructure - whaledecks decks and so on - being added without considering the stability implications, couple with free-surface effects in open fish holds.
 
JumbleDuck said:
Normally (and I have no idea if this will apply to the Nancy Glen) it seems to be the result of additional superstructure - whaledecks decks and so on - being added without considering the stability implications, couple with free-surface effects in open fish holds.
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The MAIB reports do give a story of a lack of understanding of stability in the fishing industry, but I suspect that if it was a stability issue they would've felt the need to raise the wreck themselves.
 
Something made me think I'd seen something about a new 'crane' being added on deck recently...
But I can't find it now.
 
And now this:

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-44042298
 
Capt Popeye said:
Must await the outcome though and see what angle or direction the investigation takes, interesting times, eh ?
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Others will be better qualified to say for sure, but I think it is fairly standard procedure for the fiscal to ask the police to investigate accidental and workplace deaths prior to a Fatal Accident Inquiry. It doesn't necessarily mean that there is any suspicion of criminality. I presume that the MAIB will be investigating as well.
 
They could save a fortune by getting us to do it, and we would have the big advantage of being able to complete it without needing any of the facts.
 
Quandary said:
They could save a fortune by getting us to do it, and we would have the big advantage of being able to complete it without needing any of the facts.
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That's nonsense. The forum always needs a couple of misunderstood facts before being able to draw a firm conclusion.
 
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