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I have a Beta 14 that is circa 2013 and 60 or so hours logged. I'm keen on selling it with all ancillary equipment once I have it out of the boat but have no real idea how much it's worth. Is there a 'Parker guide' or any equivalencies?
 
If there's an hour meter on the engine panel take pics before removal and as already mentioned video of it running. If you can "prove" it's so lightly used and if, say, it's off a common model of boat (which means the ancillaries will also fit) of which there are a lot of examples with old engines around (think Westerly Centaur, Albin Vega, e.g.) you might be lucky and get £1500 possibly even a bit more I'd have thought. But if the ancillaries aren't much use to a potential buyer and the 60 hours run is only hearsay then take what you can get, I'd be surprised if you didn't get a grand if it all looks nice anc clean and can be seen running though. Out of interest why would you want to remove such a nice newish engine?
 
I paid £1000 for a Beta 20 a couple of years ago. It came with a 12 month gentleman's guarantee (which was fine), seen running but there was no record of hours.

Yours sounds like it is worth more, don't expect it to sell quickly though. Many who decide to re-engine think they may as well go for a new motor if doing all that fitting work.
 
TwoBoatsTom said:
I have a Beta 14 that is circa 2013 and 60 or so hours logged. I'm keen on selling it with all ancillary equipment once I have it out of the boat but have no real idea how much it's worth. Is there a 'Parker guide' or any equivalencies?
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You could make a Youtube Video of it running and put it on eBay or Boats & Outboards with a reference to the Youtube Video.
 
TwoBoatsTom said:
I have a Beta 14 that is circa 2013 and 60 or so hours logged. I'm keen on selling it with all ancillary equipment once I have it out of the boat but have no real idea how much it's worth. Is there a 'Parker guide' or any equivalencies?
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If someone can do a 'like for like' swap then you may get £2,000, but it's unlikely you will find that elusive customer ( swapping newer Bukh's for older Bukh's in Westerlies works well and I have been involved in two such swaps on boats I have owned). Otherwise it might appeal to someone with a small open boat. So I would have thought that anything close to £1500 would be good going.
My experience of older Bukh engines is that for a 'runner' they go for £500 to £1500 depending on age, exact model etc
 
Thanks for the quick replies. I've looked online and not found any new prices listed to compare with but another thread on here states £3300 for a new one in 2014. I purchased the boat last year and the included survey states 'fitted new 2013' but doesn't include the receipt.

The boat is on the hard at the moment and my original plan was to sell the engine in order to 'free up equity' so I can put the money into getting the boat back into the water this season. A lighter, cheaper more moveable outboard would be the eventual replacement.

Before I remove it, palletise it, service it then do a video of it running (good idea) I'd like to know how much it's worth. I have quite a lot of work to do on the boat so had planned on removing the engine (I will take pictures of the control panel hour meter) and servicing it anyway regardless.
 
That is possibly the most stupid plan I have heard of in a long time. Sorry to be blunt, but it is.

The cost of removal, the reduction in value of the boat, the cost of an equivalent outboard etc just makes no sense whatsoever. You'll raise, £1500, spend £1000 and reduce the value of the boat considerably.

And I should add that in the current market, with everything locked down, no one sailing and an economic crash worse than you can imagine around the corner .. you probably wont be able to sell it anyway.
 
Thanks for the blunt response, no apology necessary. You are assuming, however, that I intend to sell the boat anytime soon, that I will be paying someone else to do the work and that my only concern is financial. I am currently working on the boat and will be lifting the engine out anyway, by myself.

Less weight, more control over where the weight is, and more space are considerations too but as it will be coming out anyway I thought I'd see what the market value is - what happens next is what I'm currently trying to decide. Replacement with an outboard makes sense to me but I don't wish to start another inboard vs outboard thread.
 
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If you're changing to outboard, selling the engine with the right shaft, shaft seal and a prop that's quite likely appropriate for the new owner might make a significant difference compared to the normal engine/gearbox combo that's offered.
Other ancillaries might be bundled in, the cost of exhaust bits, strainer, controls etc stacks up.
Still very hard to put a price on it.

For most people this would be a winter project, so it will help if you are in no hurry, even setting aside the current crisis.
 
rszemeti said:
That is possibly the most stupid plan I have heard of in a long time. Sorry to be blunt, but it is.

The cost of removal, the reduction in value of the boat, the cost of an equivalent outboard etc just makes no sense whatsoever. You'll raise, £1500, spend £1000 and reduce the value of the boat considerably.

And I should add that in the current market, with everything locked down, no one sailing and an economic crash worse than you can imagine around the corner .. you probably wont be able to sell it anyway.
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I have to agree. When my 4-99 Perkins seized a number of years back on my 25ft Sunrider .... I was caught in the trap of what to do. I'd only couple years earlier put new engine beds .. mounts ... replaced coupling etc. etc ... major works - whacked me out for near 3000 quid. So now looking at engine .... my ar** was playing Yankee Doodle Dandy !

I looked at removing the lump and changing to an outboard hung of the back.... 500 for a 2nd hand O/bd ... 200 to fit lifting bracket ...
In the end Alan in the yard said - Nigel - stop far**** around - you've got all the new beds etc. - there's an old 4-107 out back ... reckon she'll do the job.
250 quid and Alan was on the job to fit it .... OK - it cost me dear to fit ... but I am so glad I did ... that smoky old 4-107 has pushed my boat around for nigh on 15yrs and it purrs like a dream still .... smoke was a result of previous owner never giving it wellie !! She was so choked up .....
 
I just fail to see the point in taking a 60 hour engine out of the boat and swapping it for an older outboard to release equity ... why stop there? Perhaps you could swap out the mast and rigging for more worn items and release some equity that way. What about the running rigging? Sell it on eBay and grab some out of the bins ...

At the moment a 60 hour engine sounds like a great bonus and possibly the best bit of the boat, but each to their own.
 
I sympathise somewhat with the OP.

When I first started sailing I had a boat with an outboard in a well. After some years I decided on a 'proper boat' with a diesel engine.

I had a diesel engine for the next twenty years, and despite regular maintenance it
just wasn't worth all the effort. Cramped access, coupling seals, alignment , engine beds,
water ingress . The biggest stress was if the engine needed replacement the cost would vastly more than what the boat was worth.

In recent years, I have downsized yachts twice and then gone back up a size. All have been
outboards in a well. I keep a back up engine in a locker. I service them all at home and it is
an enjoyable exercise. During the season, I can clean the propeller whenever I like. Fuel usage seems about par with 4 stroke modern outboard comparing well with diesel.

Giving up an inboard , for me, is the best thing I have ever done and all the stress has gone now that I have simple sailing.

The OP's engine does seem rather new to take this action but if it suits him for his own
particular reasons then I wish him well.
 
rszemeti said:
I just fail to see the point in taking a 60 hour engine out of the boat and swapping it for an older outboard to release equity ... why stop there? Perhaps you could swap out the mast and rigging for more worn items and release some equity that way. What about the running rigging? Sell it on eBay and grab some out of the bins ...

At the moment a 60 hour engine sounds like a great bonus and possibly the best bit of the boat, but each to their own.
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It's practically a new engine!
 
In fairness to the OP we don't know what boat he's got and what his intended usage of it is and that could make a big difference. But yes on the face of it doesn't make a lot of sense...
 
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