??Implications Of The Brexit Agreement To Expats, Liveaboards and Long Term Visitors ??

[Beneteau381]

Yes, labelling it the GHIC, despite covering fewer countries, was all part of the spin

 

[syvictoria]

Not sure. Is it reciprocal or does each side make a payment for each treatment? If the latter then the cover can vary from each side. Obviously, the cover provided under the old EHIC varied anyway as it was the free cover provided in each EU state, which varies.

Each side/country does, I believe, reclaim costs from the other in the event of a 'claim'. But I thought that the level of cover offered was at present reciprocal? This could just be an EU thing however, and as you point out, something different could be negotiated for the GHIC.

EHIC > GHIC is just about removing the reference to 'Europe' from something else surely?! It's all 'Great' and 'Global' going forwards, guys....!!!!

 

[25931]

only about a million Living abroad: British residents living in the EU - Office for National Statistics

and you think that they all live in camper-vans ?

 

[atol]

and you think that they all live in camper-vans ?

That is not the worrying bit,more than half of those people are of working age and will probably soon be forced to return to the uk and look for jobs if they don't qualify for residence or work permits

 

[25931]

That is not the worrying bit,more than half of those people are of working age and will probably soon be forced to return to the uk and look for jobs if they don't qualify for residence or work permits

You say half will probably be forced to return to the UK. Where do you get that idea ? l think that will only apply to the illegal ones who don't pay tax.

 

[Kelpie]

You say half will probably be forced to return to the UK. Where do you get that idea ? l think that will only apply to the illegal ones who don't pay tax.

It will apply to everyone who isn't considered as working in an immigration priority job. Why would an employer go through the hassle of helping get them a visa when they could just employ any Schengen national instead?

 

[25931]

It will apply to everyone who isn't considered as working in an immigration priority job. Why would an employer go through the hassle of helping get them a visa when they could just employ any Schengen national instead?

It will probably apply to those who are illegal and whose employers have not registered them for obvious reasons.

 

[Kelpie]

It will probably apply to those who are illegal and whose employers have not registered them for obvious reasons.

Well lots of people are going to become illegal at midnight tonight.

 

[Sailfree]

Well lots of people are going to become illegal at midnight tonight.

Try 23.00 UK time !

 

[nortada]

Well lots of people are going to become illegal at midnight tonight.

Aren’t you jumping the gun

Under the Schengen 90/180 Rule, UK nationals can be in the EU, legally, without a visa until 1st April 2021.

Even after this date, until they come to leave the Schengen Zone, it is quite possible legal or not their presence will not be detected.

 

[atol]

Aren’t you jumping the gun

Under the Schengen 90/180 Rule, UK nationals can be in the EU, legally, without a visa until 1st April 2021.

Even after this date, until they come to leave the Schengen Zone, it is quite possible legal or not their presence will not be detected.

not if they are working without a work permit,tomorrow morning they become illegal.
overstayers become illegal on the 1st april

 

[nortada]

not if they are working without a work permit,tomorrow morning they become illegal.
overstayers become illegal on the 1st april

There will always be chancers but based on local experience, I suspect the majority in work have either residency (the gold standard) or a work permit.

 

[atol]

There will always be chancers but based on local experience, I suspect the majority in work have either residency (the gold standard) or a work permit.

Lets hope so otherwise unemployment will jump by 1/2 million after march as funds dry up and people return to the UK or are deported.

 

[sailaboutvic]

Who's that knocking on my door ,there coming to take me away ha ha , is it the police ? Is it the men in black?
Chill it just Bob and Ann with another bottle of champagne to see the new year in .
Yes I know it's only 07.30 but the party is still going on ....HAPPY NEW YEARRRRrrrrrrrrr
Yes still bloody pissed ...

 

[Graham376]

That is not the worrying bit,more than half of those people are of working age and will probably soon be forced to return to the uk and look for jobs if they don't qualify for residence or work permits

Stop scaremongering. If these figures in the link provided are correct, there are 784k Brits living in the EU, They/we have chosen as far as the government is concerned to leave the UK to live elsewhere so, why should they waste time on us when the the EU and countries concerned have already stated their status will be maintained, whether working or retired?

Quite a few of us on these forums have either citizenship or permanent or temporary residence outside the UK and I've not heard one saying they're under threat, just an inconvenience about the 90/180 elsewhere. Others could have become resident but chose not to, despite the warnings for a couple of years.

The vast majority of tourists only go for a couple of weeks holiday and they're covered without visas, unlike other third countries. As for the cruisers and campervans, they/we are a tiny minority of the tourists visiting the EU so far down the pecking order during negotiations. I agree, not a good situation for those concerned but, hardly surprising.

 

[JumbleDuck]

Why? If they're UK tax payers they should be entitled to the same benefits as others have when hopping across to France or Spain for a holiday.

It is unreasonable to expect the NHS to pay for healthcare in countries where it costs much more than in the UK.

 

[Graham376]

It is unreasonable to expect the NHS to pay for healthcare in countries where it costs much more than in the UK.

More reciprocal agreements could be made or maybe a contributory scheme for EHIC to cover costs, medical insurance companies are making good profits from policyholders and I would rather pay into a government health scheme.

 

[atol]

Stop scaremongering. If these figures in the link provided are correct, there are 784k Brits living in the EU, They/we have chosen as far as the government is concerned to leave the UK to live elsewhere so, why should they waste time on us when the the EU and countries concerned have already stated their status will be maintained, whether working or retired?

Quite a few of us on these forums have either citizenship or permanent or temporary residence outside the UK and I've not heard one saying they're under threat, just an inconvenience about the 90/180 elsewhere. Others could have become resident but chose not to, despite the warnings for a couple of years.

The vast majority of tourists only go for a couple of weeks holiday and they're covered without visas, unlike other third countries. As for the cruisers and campervans, they/we are a tiny minority of the tourists visiting the EU so far down the pecking order during negotiations. I agree, not a good situation for those concerned but, hardly surprising.

working age brits according to the UK office of national statistics,how many of those earn over £25K if the EU use the same criteria as the UK for a work permit,or have 14400 euros per year and private health care to support themselves as per shengan requirements?

Two-thirds of British citizens living in the EU, excluding the UK and Ireland, are aged 15 to 64 years, and more 15- to 64-year-olds live in Spain than any other EU country.
Living abroad: British residents living in the EU - Office for National Statistics

 

[nortada]

working age brits according to the UK office of national statistics,how many of those earn over £25K if the EU use the same criteria as the UK for a work permit,or have 14400 euros per year and private health care to support themselves as per shengan requirements?

Two-thirds of British citizens living in the EU, excluding the UK and Ireland, are aged 15 to 64 years, and more 15- to 64-year-olds live in Spain than any other EU country.
Living abroad: British residents living in the EU - Office for National Statistics

What point are you making and what is it's relevance in Liveaboard Link?

 

[atol]

What point are you making and what is it's relevance in Liveaboard Link?

pointing out the implications,as a livabord of over 30 years to the uk and wider community to the question you asked,or are we not allowed to ?
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