??Implications Of The Brexit Agreement To Expats, Liveaboards and Long Term Visitors ??

[nortada]

So what does this deal mean for you?

I was going to post the official UK Government release but having spent hours working through it, it hard to follow and deadly boring so I have checked the link above against the Government link.

Two issues significant to us lot are:-

UK EHIC All UK EHIC cards issued before the end of 2020 will be valid – but only until their expiry dates. After that, the UK will issue a new card called the UK Global Health Insurance Card (GHIC), but there are no further details yet on how to obtain it or from when it will be available.

Internationai Permits For UK Driving Licences and Green Cards. The UK Mission to the EU said last night that those with a driving licence issued in the UK would not need to use an International Drivers Permit in the EU, as had previously been thought likely. An international driving permit is available at the Post Office for £5.50. You also need a car insurance green card which acts as proof that you are insured in the UK through your provider, which can take up to six weeks.

No doubt, loads more in the UK Government release, which we can add as it becomes apparent.

For any who want it the link to the Government Release:- Agreements reached between the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the European Union .

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

You spent 'hours working through' the agreement and thats the most you can come up with

You could have found those things out by reading the Daily Mirror and the Sun today instead

 

[boyblue]

Life is too short to read those sort of documents, better to wait a day or two and read the important points in your daily rag, whether Daily Mirror or Times, the truth will out.

 

[nortada]

Life is too short to read those sort of documents, better to wait a day or two and read the important points in your daily rag, whether Daily Mirror or Times, the truth will out.

For those who want to get an UK EHIC before the end of this year a couple of days may be too late.

 

[boyblue]

Your existing card will be honoured and then can be renewed on expiry with a similar card.

 

[steve yates]

Your existing card will be honoured and then can be renewed on expiry with a similar card.

How do you make that out?

 

[greeny]

Apply for a free European Health Insurance Card (EHIC)
See reference to the new GHIC.

Visit Europe from 1 January 2021

Halfway down the page. EHIC.

 

[Bristolfashion]

Your existing card will be honoured and then can be renewed on expiry with a similar card.

Not entirely similar, from the NHS website,

"From 1 January 2021, GHICs and most UK EHICs will not cover you in Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein or Switzerland."

So 4 countries less - other differences may emerge once the scheme is formally launched.

 

[nortada]

How do you make that out?

Apply for a free European Health Insurance Card (EHIC)
See reference to the new GHIC.

Visit Europe from 1 January 2021

Halfway down the page. EHIC.

Understand the new cars will be called The Global Health Insurance Card (GHIC).

Details have yet to be announced but it really be Global - like include the USAIf so it will be a big advance on the current U.K. EHIC.

 

[Bristolfashion]

Understand the new cars will be called The Global Health Insurance Card (GHIC).

Details have yet to be announced but it really be Global - like include the USAIf so it will be a big advance on the current U.K. EHIC.

It's the old EHIC minus the 4 countries previously mentioned and, from the Independent, is likely to just gather up the existing other reciprocal agreements. In summary, a least a bit worse.

"Will the new Ghic be truly global?
Almost certainly not. The idea that taxpayers should bankroll health care for British citizens in far-flung locations such as the Maldives or Hawaii is, frankly, ludicrous.

Its “global” nature is expected initially to be limited to existing reciprocal agreements: basically Australia, New Zealand, Gibraltar, the non-EU nations of the former Yugoslavia, a scattering of UK territories in the Caribbean, plus the remote Atlantic possessions of the Falklands and plucky St Helena."

 

[Graham376]

The idea that taxpayers should bankroll health care for British citizens in far-flung locations such as the Maldives or Hawaii is, frankly, ludicrous.

Why? If they're UK tax payers they should be entitled to the same benefits as others have when hopping across to France or Spain for a holiday.

 

[atol]

Why? If they're UK tax payers they should be entitled to the same benefits as others have when hopping across to France or Spain for a holiday.

The idea is that it is a reciprocal agreement with countries that we have existing treaties with,so their citizens can use the NHS whilst in the uk,as we can their healhcare systems whilst in their countries in emergencies

 

[jordanbasset]

It's the old EHIC minus the 4 countries previously mentioned and, from the Independent, is likely to just gather up the existing other reciprocal agreements. In summary, a least a bit worse.

Yes, labelling it the GHIC, despite covering fewer countries, was all part of the spin

 

[25931]

You spent 'hours working through' the agreement and thats the most you can come up with

You could have found those things out by reading the Daily Mirror and the Sun today instead

Is it your New Year's resolution to become increasingly churlish ?

 

[atol]

Is it your New Year's resolution to become increasingly churlish ?

you should read the comments on some of the van/ motorhome forums if you want churlish, now it has become apparent that longterm EU travel is a thing of the past!

 

[Graham376]

you should read the comments on some of the van/ motorhome forums if you want churlish, now it has become apparent that longterm EU travel is a thing of the past!

Annoying as it is, hardly surprising the EU & UK negotiators didn't bother about a tiny minority of the population, too many more important areas to cover.

 

[Bristolfashion]

Why? If they're UK tax payers they should be entitled to the same benefits as others have when hopping across to France or Spain for a holiday.

I should point out that the information in my post is a quotation from the Independent, not my own words.

 

[atol]

Annoying as it is, hardly surprising the EU & UK negotiators didn't bother about a tiny minority of the population, too many more important areas to cover.

only about a million Living abroad: British residents living in the EU - Office for National Statistics

 

[syvictoria]

As for the new GHIC, surely it will in the EU have to offer pretty much the same level of cover as the current EHIC, otherwise the EU would have to reduce/increase their cover in return in order to maintain the reciprocity?

 

[Bristolfashion]

As for the new GHIC, surely it will in the EU have to offer pretty much the same level of cover as the current EHIC, otherwise the EU would have to reduce/increase their cover in return in order to maintain the reciprocity?

Not sure. Is it reciprocal or does each side make a payment for each treatment? If the latter then the cover can vary from each side. Obviously, the cover provided under the old EHIC varied anyway as it was the free cover provided in each EU state, which varies.