Im sorry, another brexit question

[Forty_Two]

What is the long stay visa with "residence permit exemption”? Does that not rule out becoming automatically resident?

It's the VLS-T for 4 - 6 months. Non residence, need to apply for a new one each year with a 6 month gap between visas. It's what i have for this year. Just have to make sure total stays in Fr Jan-Dec don't exceed 6mths including any non visa Schengan (90/180) days you may have used or resindency will raise it's head.

 

[AngusMcDoon]

It's the VLS-T for 4 - 6 months. Non residence, need to apply for a new one each year with a 6 month gap between visas. It's what i have for this year. Just have to make sure total stays in Fr Jan-Dec don't exceed 6mths including any non visa Schengan (90/180) days you may have used or resindency will raise it's head.

Being a pedant, I think it's for stays of between 3 and 6 months, not 4. Up to 3 a normal Schengen will do.

 

[Forty_Two]

Being a pedant, I think it's for stays of between 3 and 6 months, not 4. Up to 3 a normal Schengen will do.

I agree. I think it's often called 4-6 so people don't think they need it for a 3 month stay. Folks seem easily confused these days.

 

[Bolero105]

Hi all,
OK, so lets say you enter Europe in France,(fly in and board your boat) cruise around for a couple of months, say to Spain and Italy, and then before your 90 days are up you head to Croatia. After a few months there you leave Croatia and head back to Spain. All this time, because you've been cruising in Europe, you haven't cleared in and out of each country. Then you leave Spain for Gibraltar. How do they know you've been in Croatia for those few months, as opposed to having spent all that time in the Schengen zone? Or put simply, once you're in the EU and travelling between countries on your own boat, how do they know whether you've spent that time in Shengen countries or not? Am I missing something really obvious here?
Thanks,
Mike

 

[Graham376]

Hi all,
OK, so lets say you enter Europe in France,(fly in and board your boat) cruise around for a couple of months, say to Spain and Italy, and then before your 90 days are up you head to Croatia. After a few months there you leave Croatia and head back to Spain. All this time, because you've been cruising in Europe, you haven't cleared in and out of each country. Then you leave Spain for Gibraltar. How do they know you've been in Croatia for those few months, as opposed to having spent all that time in the Schengen zone? Or put simply, once you're in the EU and travelling between countries on your own boat, how do they know whether you've spent that time in Shengen countries or not? Am I missing something really obvious here?
Thanks,
Mike

It's up to you to check out when leaving Schengen, you need to stop the clock to avoid possible deportation for overstay.

 

[nortada]

Hi all,
OK, so lets say you enter Europe in France,(fly in and board your boat) cruise around for a couple of months, say to Spain and Italy, and then before your 90 days are up you head to Croatia. After a few months there you leave Croatia and head back to Spain. All this time, because you've been cruising in Europe, you haven't cleared in and out of each country. Then you leave Spain for Gibraltar. How do they know you've been in Croatia for those few months, as opposed to having spent all that time in the Schengen zone? Or put simply, once you're in the EU and travelling between countries on your own boat, how do they know whether you've spent that time in Shengen countries or not? Am I missing something really obvious here?
Thanks,
Mike

Could work provided you remain under the radar but tracking people/vessels is becoming evermore sophisticated so the risk of detection increases.

Once detected, if it is apparent you have knowling contravened the 90/180 rule you could be up that creek without a paddle.

 

[Tranona]

Hi all,
OK, so lets say you enter Europe in France,(fly in and board your boat) cruise around for a couple of months, say to Spain and Italy, and then before your 90 days are up you head to Croatia. After a few months there you leave Croatia and head back to Spain. All this time, because you've been cruising in Europe, you haven't cleared in and out of each country. Then you leave Spain for Gibraltar. How do they know you've been in Croatia for those few months, as opposed to having spent all that time in the Schengen zone? Or put simply, once you're in the EU and travelling between countries on your own boat, how do they know whether you've spent that time in Shengen countries or not? Am I missing something really obvious here?
Thanks,
Mike

Very simple - as Graham says you have to check out of Schengen otherwise you clock keeps ticking. Bit of a PITA at the moment because not all states are geared up for this and might have restricted places to check out, but once the central system is up and running should be less of an issue. Make sure you keep good evidence of your boat's movements as well for TA purposes.

 

[blampied]

Use your 90 days to head through the canals into the Med,
unless you go really slow along the canals you will still have enough days left to get down to Gibraltar
(We’re from Jersey & did the same route before Brexit, we took longer than 90 days because we could, but 90 days is easily doable)
Gibraltar is still outside schengan so your 90 days stops and starts to replenish.
Gib is a nice English speaking, cheep drinking, friendly and good food place to be. (We are there living on a boat at the moment)

enjoy