I'm out of here. Bye.

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I\'m out of here. Bye.

Anyone who wonders why can look at the thread on "The Lounge" headed, "Am I a racist?"

Bit like lifting a stone and finding slimy things slithering hither and thither beneath it. As my old mother used to say - "Touch pitch and ye shall be defiled". There are some truly nasty minds around this place.

Life's too short - I've got a boat and a family, and won't be wasting time on ybw.com again. Those of you who have met me and my children will know why.
 
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As the saying goes 'You can run, but you cannot hide'
Why leave something because some folk have differing views. If there where no dissent there would be no change in anything. Life the universe and everything goes on, whether you like it or not. But sorry that you should not wish to be associated with the forum any longer, I am sure you will be missed. We have never communicated before but I have read your posts on maby occasions. Take care and enjoy.
Mal
 
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What took you so long to find out. You should have read the post about the two lads who went joy-riding in a boat on Portland and one drowned, that really went to town on decency.
 
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Really sorry to here that

You will be sorely missed

Respect to you Joe
 
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Mirelle,

Just read that thread, and am in agreement with you. Zero tolerance for racism is the only way ahead. The fact that others are racist doesn't and shouldn't mean that we should stoop to their level.
I am of German and Irish descent, and English by adoption, and I reckon if you dig back in anyone's lineage far enough you'll find we're all "mongrels" like me to some degree or another. Please don't let the opinions of some in the lounge put you off contributing to the classic forum - I for one have found your input very helpful on occasion, and will certainly miss it. Just compare the lounge to the "Bilge" on the WoodenBoat forum and you'll see that, apart from occasional, yet serious, glitches such as that thread, we're actually quite restrained over here!
 
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Please don't leave Mirelle - everybody here respects your knowledge and experience of ships and classic yachts enormously, and we would be gutted if you absconded!

Best to just allow certain bilge dwellers who habitually post crap in The Lounge to get on with it, and not waste time in there.
The Classic Boat and Ships Monthly Forums need, want, and respect your opinions.

I have not read the Racist thread, and I do not intend to - I have better things to do with my time (yes, like posting on this and the other forums. Loungers dont need to point this out to me, I am aware!)

(PS - Like Triton above, I also have German and Irish parents, and agree that we are all mongrels - and I am sure that everybody would agree that mongrels are invariably better all round than pure breds!)
 
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Mirelle

Normally I would not take much notice when someone announces their intention to leave … as forums… contrary to what folks would like to believe … can be quite unfriendly places with no one listening and most only wanting to talk about themselves, what they think, and what they do ect… always looking for a chance to inflame a situation…happily these people can be easily identified …however every now and then there is a poster that stands out from the crowd ..someone who has a wealth of boating information at his fingertips and obviously enjoys passing on this information to his fellow boaters…you Mirelle have shown yourself to be one such person….If anything comes from this it shouldn’t be that you leave …rather just stay out of the lounge and current affairs and all the other tabloid driven debates…they are not what most come here for.
Please reconsider as I am convinced and concerned that this forum will be poorer without your input.


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Having read the post from start to finish it does seem that you have got yourself worlked up over very little, and through a few of the first punches. You seem to have, I am sure mistakenly and without intention, level some nasty accusations at the feet of some well repsected people - people I know outside of the forum.

Whatever your feelingss, and I am not typing this to judge, appologise, defend or accuse, to leave the whole forum because of this and deprive the rest of us of your knowlege and experience would be a great shame.

Use the ignor button on those forumites who have clearly upset you, or accept there are people all over the world who will have attitudes and lifestyles that you might find distasteful and unnacceptable but don't just turn your back on a community because you don't like what one or two people have said. I know you wouldn't do this outside of cyberspace, because if you did you would never be able to settle any where.

That said, you must do what you think is right, and tread the path you feel comfortable with. I have no personal feelings towards you, as we frequent different areas of this page, but this whole site would be nothing without the people who post, each of us different, with different ideas, backgrounds, jobs, likes, dislikes - the list is endless - but together we make up the whole, for good and for bad and when one with your experience leaves it leaves a void unfillable - for you are unique and cannot be replaced. The community will still be whole, just different.

Please re-consider.
 
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Please reconsider.Im sure the ar$ehole$ are just a tiny minority of forumites. By doing a few Scuttlebut Cherbourg trips I have met dozens of decent people.

Personally I rarely visit the lounge as I often dont like the flavour of some of the discussions.
 
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Mirelle,Uncle Albert has expressed my views in a far more eloquent way than I could.
Although for various reasons (idleness,lack of skill etc) I would never own a wooden classic I have always enjoyed reading CBF and your contributions in particular.
 
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It willbe or is a sad day. I have enjoyed your posts and taken your advice and used your knowledge on numerous occasions. If you feel you must leave, so be it, I'm sure you will have thought it out carefully. Great pity, goodluck and fair winds to you, sorry to see you go, very sorry!
 
Bye then.

Hm. I am curious about these threads that annouce "I'm leaving now and i won't be back!"

Why don't such people just er leave?

In the specific thread, Mirelle's first contribution was personal abuse, then some more personal abuse. Perhaps a timeout a good idea.
 
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Is it a case of the devil you know, or the devil you don't know ? Put them on "Ignore" , but there may be other, more upsetting ones, who don't post what they are thinking. therein lies a more significant cause for worry. The world is not perfect, but this one is the best one we have.

The value of these forums lies in the ability to tap really expert specialist knowledge, given freely and with cheerfulness. You have made so many valuable contributions even in the short time I have been on board: please - take a break if you must - but join in again and continue to shed enlightenment.

with deep respect
 
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I for one should miss your contributions, and in a way (and I am sure you do not mean this) to leave is to tar us all with the same brush.

For my part I would rather that people could express their opinions, I hate the PC world we live in, it is both artificial and stults development. I would rather ignore the writings of some than control the writings of all, and though I may disagree I do insist on their right to have their say, and reserve my right to respond.

This is a forum where we share knowledge and interests relating to anything nautical, please do reconsider.
 
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I can appreciate how you feel after skimming the thread - your opinions very much mirror mine.

Leave the lounge by all means, but please re-consider leaving the comforts of the Classic Boat and Book Club forums. You are highly regarded, particularly here, and I for one have learnt an immense amount about wooden boat ownership from you.

Of all the forums on YBW, I think this one is certainly the friendliest, most civilised, balanced and considered one. You have undoubtedly enriched it - and will be sorely missed.
 
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Mirelle, your posts are interesting, informative, and unlike some, your advice is correct! I had not bothered to read any posts in The Lounge before, and I probably won't again. Just like any town, some bars contain lounges with narrow minded and bigoted arses, who you would not bother to spend a moment in. They usually group together, make a lot of noise, achieve nothing, and have no real friends!
Best to ignore that lot, and stay out of the lounge, and stick with us nice guys in our classic pub!
There are many classic boats out there that have benefitted from your advice, and been saved from DIY bodgery. For the sake of them and their future owners, please stay on !

.....where are the moderators?
 
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Stay a while, Mirelle; for though the world have more than enough fools and knaves [and too many of them run for the nation's highest offices], there ar also many good people, and fair number of whom are correspondents on this forum. Leave the Lounge lizards to their disagreeable habits, and consort with the Hearts of Oak [and Teak, larch etc] who you will find here. There are too few who have been there and done that [and got the T-shirt], but many who are about to go there and do that for the first time. A narrow gangplank is all the better for having a handrail.
Peter.
 
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