Identify two mystery yachts?

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Hi folks

I've been meaning to post these for a while, neither of these have moved for several years and I'm curious to know what they are. When I first saw the first boat, I thought she was a Nicholson 32, but checking on the net I realise that whilst similar, she isn't one of those. The second boat has "COCCO 65" on a transfer on the side, but I haven't been able to find out anything on the net.

Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks!

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...and indeed she also looks like a Great Dane 28. I now have a good excuse to go back and take some more detailed photos. Thanks!

Lakesailor, thanks, that one on Nettivene wasn't there when I first googled 'cocco 65' earlier in the year. The fact that that boat is also in Finland makes me suspect now that it may be a Finnish design ;-)
 
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Zetorpilot,

On second thoughts I'm not convinced she is a Great Dane, needs a few more camera angles to decide...

If she is anything to do with Vertue's, she'll be worth a fortune !!!

I'm sure they have a strong class association.
 
Seajet said:
Zetorpilot,

On second thoughts I'm not convinced she is a Great Dane, needs a few more camera angles to decide...

If she is anything to do with Vertue's, she'll be worth a fortune !!!

I'm sure they have a strong class association.
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Hmm... well GD's windows do seem to be slimmer, especially the foremost one, and there is a curve to the front of the coachroof of the yacht I photographed that GD doesn't seem to have. Maybe these could be design details that have changed over time though?
 
zetorpilot said:
Wow, that was quick, thanks! I've done some quick googlage and it looks like you're right. I wonder if I can track down the owner. There is a window missing on the other side, and I would imagine that rain has got in. It's a shame to see such a lovely boat neglected.
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I'm not completely convinced though - the deck level doesn't look right. The lines of the boat should be a bit curvey but it is difficult to make out from the angle of the shot, and the lean that she has.
 
Pye_End said:
I'm not completely convinced though - the deck level doesn't look right. The lines of the boat should be a bit curvey but it is difficult to make out from the angle of the shot, and the lean that she has.
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I'll try and get back there early next week and take some more pictures. I won't get the chance tomorrow, hopefully we'll be going sailing :)
 
I'm baffled re the first one - she definitely isn't a Vertue II (Laurent Giles bows are very distinctive).
And she definitely isn't a Great Dane 28 or a Bianca 27 (which looks very similar to the GD 28).
There is a hint of American Bristol or Pearson about her, perhaps with a bit of Alberg thrown in, but again, the cabin and the bow are different to any of the ones I could find on Yachtworld.
Probably European?
 
Bajansailor said:
I'm baffled re the first one - she definitely isn't a Vertue II (Laurent Giles bows are very distinctive).
And she definitely isn't a Great Dane 28 or a Bianca 27 (which looks very similar to the GD 28).
There is a hint of American Bristol or Pearson about her, perhaps with a bit of Alberg thrown in, but again, the cabin and the bow are different to any of the ones I could find on Yachtworld.
Probably European?
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+1 Definitely not a GD, nor a Bianca 27...
Feast Your eyes on those here
http://gd28.wikidot.com/pictures
http://www.bianca27.net
 
Top one looks like a Hereshoff 28. Depending on the builder the doghouse varies and many are sloop rigged and have lost their bowsprit.
 
First one is a "GT-Kryssare". It's a Finnish design, basically a bare hull/deck for self completion designed and produced during the 1970's. The intent was to provide something close to a Folkboat but in GRP with a taller cabin. Generally mast-head rig rather than the fractional rig of an FB.

How do I know? 'Cos I've got one. Also there's a give-away on the bow... :)

Just realised, the OP is also in Finland so these boats are probably also in Finland. Should have guessed from the cradles and mast storage methods...

There's a clue to the Scandinavian origins - the cockpit coaming generally curves upwards to the cabin top or close to it, as do both of these.
 
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Ahh, it looks like Steve L has it... Thank you Steve!

I went back today to take some more photos, it looks like these are redundant now but I'll post them anyway:

Rudder retail:

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Profile, rotated a few degrees:

yacht3.jpg


And thanks again to Steve and everyone who has taken the trouble to help. I have now found plenty on the net about these boats, but it helps that I can read Finnish :)

So... does the team think I should make enquiries? ;) one never knows, maybe the owner "just wants it taken away"? :o
 
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:) Was looking some info on the net about GT Kryssares and just happened to see this site. And I just have to post some pictures. The thing is. Owner just wanted it taken away :)

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