Ideas for boats which fit my ideal spec!

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Snapdragon 21

 

[onesea]

Outboard engine (inboard if I really have to), both are around.
24 feet long GRP.
You can sit comfortably in the cabin.
Lifting keel or bilge available for cheaper drying moorings.
Must have classic lines, more classic than anything your looking at so far,
15K You can pick up a good one for half of that,
Ideal for Solent and short hops and creek crawling. I did it for years they have been cruised allot further to...
Not as slow as it looks but the bilge keel to windward is not fast.
Just hassle free simplicity. Will probably have marine toilet and depends upon if it has engine, simple tough boats with not allot to go wrong...

http://www.yachtsnet.co.uk/archives/trident-24/trident-24.htm

Ok not as fast as the Rocket ship 22 or the evolution 25 but if you like classic a dam site prettier. Certainly worth looking at one before you buy...

 

[Daydream believer]

To anyone trying an Anderson -
I suggest try going forward to see how they get on going over the cabin & to see if they slip A over T trying to go forward to lower the anchor.

 

[Laundryman]

Sleek and low windage! Genius! I've just giggled so hard that I think a little bit of wee came out.

Now now! You're goading. Remember what happened last time? Thanks. Alan

 

[Fantasie 19]

He really wants a Vivacity, just can't bring himself to admit it yet.

There is no "perfect boat" they are all **** when the weather comes in or the tide is against the wind, or you get a big bill. There are no cheap boats, there are no finished boats, there are no big boats. A boat is what you make it. It will always be smaller than you would like and it will always cost more than you'd like and it will never work on the perfect weekend when your holiday happens to match with the weather.

To like boating is to be against the gods. If you don't fancy fronting the gods then get a camper van and go camp.

Wise words! Except the Vivacity bit... any fule no the answer is Hurley 20..

 

[Seajet]

To anyone trying an Anderson -
I suggest try going forward to see how they get on going over the cabin & to see if they slip A over T trying to go forward to lower the anchor.

Daydream believer,

have you actually tried it ?

It's not a problem, one simply grabs the cap shroud, I've never known anyone go A over T or come close; that includes my elderly parents and a chum who had problems even walking before his hip operatuion.

He converted to hanked headsails the same as I use, so it doesn't seem he found any problem going forward.

 

[viva]

A Norfolk Gypsy meets your spec. Better quality than than a Shrimper but more expensive. You might be able to find an outboard version in your budget

 

[Telstar26]

Well have a look at the Parker 21! Meets all your criteria, and is a lovely boat to sail. Plus an active class association class association, so plenty of rallies around the Solent.

Keep an eye on this page this page for Parkers for sale.

 

[Zagato]

Thanks for all your replies, it looks as though I may have some definite contenders :encouragement: Off to see Seajet now and the infamous A22, I'll wear a harness before I go over the coachroof!

 

[PhillM]

Go classic, go wood. Nothing stirs emotions more than a wooden boat.

 

[BarryH]

Go classic, go wood. Nothing stirs emotions more than a wooden boat.

....begs the question of who? The bank manager/wife/chandler/local shipwright?? I would love a classic wooded boat, but I fear I wold kill it not being able to give it the care and attention it would deserve. I know of a fully reuirbished Sillouette that is a little gem going for a very reasonable price. It looks that pretty I almost looked at buying ot myself.......

 

[PhillM]

....begs the question of who? The bank manager/wife/chandler/local shipwright?? I would love a classic wooded boat, but I fear I wold kill it not being able to give it the care and attention it would deserve...

TBH providing you use a bit of common sense and are prepared to put a bit of effort in, keeping one alive is not that much of a problem. Honest!

I didn't have any experience of boat ownership, am an office worker by day and my DIY was non existent. Its been a steep learning curve and it has cost me money, but it is also very rewarding.

IIRC the OP looks after classic cars - I think a classic boat would be well within his ability.

Re the Sillouette, from the web it looks like plywood. Solid wood is much easier to maintain and repair, I'm never so sure about plywood. Not saying that plywood is a bad boat, just not sure how maintainable it is long term.

I do know of a Cheverton that is in decent shape and up for sale (Portsmouth) for a very reasonable price and a couple that you could get for almost free if you wanted a serious project.

 

[Stemar]

Dare I suggest a Snapdragon 24/747? I have a 24, with a lazarette that's perfect for the fenders

Tough, seaworthy boat with quirky good looks (maybe I'm a little bit biased). Bilge keels, so happy to take the ground. Around 5' 8" headroom, separate heads and space enough for two for a couple of weeks without destroying your marriage. I love mine to bits.

Not the best boat around for beating into a 6 & a wind over tide Solent chop but, if you have to go out in those conditions, she'll cope fine - that's what the engine's for.

A decent inboard has so many advantages over an outboard - Cheaper fuel - and you use a lot less, proper alternator to keep the batteries happy, and you keep the prop in the wet stuff in pretty much any conditions (I have managed to get mine out of the water, but I really shouldn't have been out at all, let alone straying into overfalls with 30+ knots on the nose!).

 

[JumbleDuck]

To anyone trying an Anderson -
I suggest try going forward to see how they get on going over the cabin & to see if they slip A over T trying to go forward to lower the anchor.

I don't see why it should be a particular problem, as long as the non-slip is in good nick. I have to go over the top in my wee Hunter (same designer; effectively the A22's smaller sister) and it's no big deal. Just about every boat ever designed by Maurice Griffiths required going over the top as well.

 

[JumbleDuck]

Outboard engine (inboard if I really have to).
Up to 22' ish feet long.
GRP.
Must be able to sit up comfortably in the cabin.
Lifting keel or bilge to get cheaper drying moorings.
Must have classic lines.
No more than 15K
To be used around the Solent for short hops and creek crawling.
Not so bothered about speed how well it points etc.

How about a Westerly 22? I think they're very cute looking, the insides are charming and they are very well built. You should be able to get several for £15k!

 

[Tidewaiter2]

He really wants a Vivacity, just can't bring himself to admit it yet.

There is no "perfect boat" they are all **** when the weather comes in or the tide is against the wind, or you get a big bill. There are no cheap boats, there are no finished boats, there are no big boats. A boat is what you make it. It will always be smaller than you would like and it will always cost more than you'd like and it will never work on the perfect weekend when your holiday happens to match with the weather.

To like boating is to be against the gods. If you don't fancy fronting the gods then get a camper van and go camp.

OOooooh, Mr Horne, even campsites get rained on and flooded!

 

[typhoonNige]

How much excitement do you want? If you're not of a nervous disposition have a look at the E-Boat. I had one for a few years and it fits your criteria. Scary in a blow but will plane at silly speeds if you want to!

 

[Romeo]

Must have classic lines.

Now that is a tricky requirement for other people to interpret. Personally I don't think that most modern boats with brown sails fall into the definition, whereas that W22 probably does. Good luck with your hunt. My suggestion would be not to spend much, because you don't need to. However, if I had the cash and needed another boat, I would love to have a go with a Romilly.

 

[Austerby]

Add an Achilles 24 to your list - fine looking boats that sail well. Triple keel versions available too (I have one). You can get a fleet of them for £15k.

 

[Zagato]

Thanks for all your replies. Had a good day with Seajet yesterday looking around his boat yard which had most of the contenders as the club is on drying moorings.

We looked at E boats, Jag 21's, Seals, etc etc and 3 Andersons. I'm realising I don't need to spend anything near my budget to get a contender, the Jouet 680 looks like the best bet but again because of the side decks it appears from pictures you cannot sit back in it which is the problem I have with my Drascombe.

The older designs like the Shrimper get around this and if the Shrimper was 22' it would be a definite but at the moment hovers near the top of the list.

I am thinking of wood also - I would love a wood boat for it's beauty and gorgeous wood interior but I'm not sure I am brave enough.

I was hoping this thread would bring up some marques I hadn't heard of so thanks for the suggesting the Romilly - VERY NICE... I was even thinging of getting one of the cheap contenders for it's hull and building in a classic coachroof etc - getting desperate now!